tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post3026453967304866748..comments2024-03-28T06:23:02.679-05:00Comments on Give2Attain: The Debate: Expectations and AnalysisJohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-75552947644384567842016-09-30T12:40:06.956-05:002016-09-30T12:40:06.956-05:00In our example, the percentage of redheads committ...In our example, the percentage of redheads committing crimes approaches 50%. So while it is reasonable to go fishing in a large lake where there are 10,000 walleye, it is a lot easier to catch fish in a small farm pond where there are 100. <br /><br />Now I think that the answer is to employ, as courts have ruled, some "reasonable suspicion" criteria that are unfortunately subjective. I don't think we should stop the basic idea of "stop and frisk" which is, honestly IMHO, to harass criminals as they go about their day.jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-90986937904979838452016-09-30T09:53:16.182-05:002016-09-30T09:53:16.182-05:00If I told you that 80% of the crime in the city wa...If I told you that 80% of the crime in the city was committed by redheads, what would you as a police chief do?<br /><br />What percentage of redheads commit crimes? 80%? 1%?<br /><br />Men commit virtually all violent street crimes. Is that a reason why men should be stopped and frisked routinely as they walk down the street? If cops did do that all day long, would they be missing something else?<br /><br />--HiramAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-8780450520031044782016-09-29T18:06:08.146-05:002016-09-29T18:06:08.146-05:00If I told you that 80% of the crime in the city wa...If I told you that 80% of the crime in the city was committed by redheads, what would you as a police chief do? Would you make certain that you paid a lot of attention to blonds and brunettes just to be "fair"? You're trying to argue the theory that "disparate impact" is a matter of racism when the correct interpretation could as easily be called "disparate contribution" to the problem. If I'm trying to stop muggings, don't I patrol those streets where most muggings occur? Or is that "unfairly targeting" muggers? jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-19715870788343954962016-09-29T16:18:50.138-05:002016-09-29T16:18:50.138-05:00The issue with crack is that it is treated differe...The issue with crack is that it is treated different than powder cocaine when it's just two forms of the same thing. If you're asking me if the mandatory minimums are also too high for meth, yes, I'd be inclined to agree. <br /><br />"This is a wealth/ lifestyle issue more so than a race issue."<br /><br />No, it's not. The NYPD systematically instructed officers to target blacks and Latinos. Seriously, go back and look at the history of the NYPD under Giuliani and Bloomberg and the stop-and-frisk, broken windows policing methodology -- there's tons of racism there.Seanhttp://brickcityblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-21320290406966295882016-09-29T15:59:24.066-05:002016-09-29T15:59:24.066-05:00Interesting and Related<a href="http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/crack-vs-meth/" rel="nofollow">Interesting and Related</a>Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-55216422542425777922016-09-29T15:54:49.128-05:002016-09-29T15:54:49.128-05:00And you take it back to Race again...
The reality...And you take it back to Race again...<br /><br />The reality is that the "Dude" driving the BMW 650 in Maple Grove is likely wealthy and connected whether he is White, Black or Latino... Police know better to screw with wealthy people who have the time and money to make their lives difficult.<br /><br />This is a wealth/ lifestyle issue more so than a race issue.<br /><br />Remember: my daughter's love their White, Black, Filipino, Indian, etc friends dearly... But they avoid the "ghetto kids" no matter their color. Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-64493528411353930182016-09-29T14:58:34.271-05:002016-09-29T14:58:34.271-05:00At the debate, Trump proposed putting "stop a...At the debate, Trump proposed putting "stop and frisk" on the streets of Chicago, which is the unconstitutional stopping of dark-skinned folks (in NYC, over 80% of stops were blacks and Latinos) with a standard less than probable cause (nearly 90% of such stops ended up with no convictions). Try pulling that on white dudes in Maple Grove and see how long people put up with it.Seanhttp://brickcityblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-55527673102761978772016-09-29T13:23:06.993-05:002016-09-29T13:23:06.993-05:00Sean, I can't help but see that as a racist co...Sean, I can't help but see that as a racist comment. You are prejudging how a certain situation would be handled based on the race of those involved. I also think you are missing an essential difference, which is that the crack "business" was perpetrated by gangsters and created a wave of crime in response, whereas the opioids are being moved mostly through the existing medical system and "ruining" people that can basically afford the cost of their addiction. Not saying you aren't correct, just that whatever the "right" solution is should be determined by the nature of the problem, not the race of the "willing victims." jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-70455418783493584252016-09-29T09:44:01.957-05:002016-09-29T09:44:01.957-05:00When crack ravaged urban (largely African-American...When crack ravaged urban (largely African-American) neighborhoods, we raised mandatory minimums, gave crack harsher sentences than powder cocaine, instituted police task forces, and lectured blacks about their culture.<br /><br />Where has that been during the opioid crisis? Why aren't we lecturing suburbanites and rural folks about their culture? Where are the raids of doctors who are handing our bogus prescriptions? What's different?<br /><br />(Listen, I think the response to opioids makes sense -- we should be looking more at treatment than militarization and jail. But I think this response is being driven by far more than just its efficacy -- white America wouldn't accept the sort of treatment we gave to those black neighborhoods.)Seanhttp://brickcityblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-62077321038667933382016-09-29T08:02:11.559-05:002016-09-29T08:02:11.559-05:00Let me get this straight: telling the absolute fa...Let me get this straight: telling the absolute factual truth about life in the "black community" is racist? Suggesting that the blame be placed on Democrats who rely on the black vote yet have no proposals to actually correct the situation is racist? What the heck kind of topsy-turvy world do we live in??? Perhaps Trump's national campaign communications director should be asked to address that. She's a black woman. <br /><br />And if you watched the convention, you heard women and blacks from the Trump organization talk about his "collaborative" management style and real concern for people, regardless of their "demographic." Her Majesty doesn't like anybody. jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-39654855458911413442016-09-28T22:59:44.269-05:002016-09-28T22:59:44.269-05:00I mean Liberals are constantly saying that it is u...I mean Liberals are constantly saying that it is unfair that minorities are forced to live in communities with high crime, poor schools, high unemployment, a shrinking number of businesses, etc... In fact they use it as proof that we have rampant racism in the USA.<br /><br />Does this mean that all Liberals are racists? Do they all think Black folk are dumb, lazy, etc? What am I missing here?Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-37768720403149408542016-09-28T22:54:20.141-05:002016-09-28T22:54:20.141-05:00It was an interesting opinion piece. I found this...It was an interesting opinion piece. I found this interesting.<br /><br />"Donald Trump told us last month what he thinks of African Americans: “<b>You’re living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58 percent of your youth is unemployed — what the hell do you have to lose?</b>” In other words, <b>you say “African American,” he thinks poor, uneducated, violent (our cities are a war zone!) and unproductive.</b> If that is not garden-variety racism, we are hard pressed to think that anything short of David Duke and the KKK — which support him — meets the definition."<br /><br />I am fascinated by how the author pulled that paraphrase out of that comment...Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-22073689558418193902016-09-28T22:02:18.869-05:002016-09-28T22:02:18.869-05:00Trump’s ingrained racism<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/09/28/trumps-ingrained-racism/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.96e9b6bf6177" rel="nofollow">Trump’s ingrained racism</a>Laurienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-59394018221880797562016-09-28T21:20:47.186-05:002016-09-28T21:20:47.186-05:00about evidence that Trump is racist- have you list...about evidence that Trump is racist- have you listened to Trump campaign over the past year? I don't think you would know racism if it hit you upside the head. I found the Trump comment Hillary brought up right at the end of the debate very telling - Miss housekeeping- that is a very ugly combination of racism and sexism.<br /><br />So what do you think of Trump's debate performance and how the campaign is spinning now two days later. Boy are they trashing Trump on MSNBC tonight. I've been too busy to follow political news online today.Laurienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-3545630030001798202016-09-28T20:44:49.645-05:002016-09-28T20:44:49.645-05:00I know you want to see the world in Black and Whit...I know you want to see the world in Black and White, however I think Poor and Not Poor is how the world really works.<br /><br />Crack from what I know was a poor persons drug that didn't touch many middle or wealthy families. Kind of like Meth today. The media and politicians concern themselves with the majorities issues. (ie customers / voters) Now Opioids and Prescription drug addictions are hitting the majority of the target market and therefore they make the news. <br /><br />I mean when many <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/health/gallery/celebrities-who-died-from-opiods/" rel="nofollow">famous people die from an Opioid overdose</a>, the media and politicians notice. And if they have relatives who are addicted or dies, they notice. When a poor White person dies from a Meth addiction, no one covers it.<br /><br />So I would say that actually meth is the poor white man's crack... And I don't see anyone getting weepy eyed over meth labs and their victims. That is unless you see shows that glamorize meth dealers as getting weepy.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-81753602613771437782016-09-28T20:24:00.244-05:002016-09-28T20:24:00.244-05:00One that I found vicious personal or maybe just in...One that I found vicious personal or maybe just inappropriate / pointless was when she called him a racist. Then offered up some broad scope Justice Dept case from the early 1970's as evidence... I know I have learned / changed massively since I was ~25 years old, I am pretty sure Trump has also. How about some proof from the past ~10 - 15 years.<br /><br />The other thing is that both Clinton and Angie Craig are taking advantage of using snippets out of context and then claiming that the comments made by Trump and Jason Lewis during their time as entertainers somehow prove they are such and such, or that they believe such and such... It is a good thing I am not running for office. Either the Conservatives or Liberals would find it easy to smear me for something. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-47448217025983301642016-09-28T12:36:41.821-05:002016-09-28T12:36:41.821-05:00Here's a though experiment for you: why do Rep...Here's a though experiment for you: why do Republicans talk so differently about problems in urban African-American communities and struggling blue-collar white communities? Even though these communities are now suffering many of the same problems for the very same reasons. Opioid addiction today is essentially white crack, except 30 years ago, local TV stations didn't run weepy sweeps month stories about the African-American families devastated by that epidemic.Seanhttp://brickcityblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-35659952881574818452016-09-28T11:54:28.984-05:002016-09-28T11:54:28.984-05:00I meant to go back to this comment: "though s...I meant to go back to this comment: "though she was getting pretty vicious / personal with some of her attacks". I'm wondering which comments met this criteria?Seanhttp://brickcityblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-70052456087646325252016-09-28T11:34:20.373-05:002016-09-28T11:34:20.373-05:00Yep, this sounds like the sort of guy we need in t...Yep, this sounds like the sort of guy we need in the White House:<br /><br />"There were early efforts to run a more standard form of general election debate-prep camp, led by Roger Ailes, the ousted Fox News chief, at Mr. Trump’s golf course in Bedminster, N.J. But Mr. Trump found it hard to focus during those meetings, according to multiple people briefed on the process who requested anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. That left Mr. Ailes, who at the time was deeply distracted by his removal from Fox and the news media reports surrounding it, discussing his own problems as well as recounting political war stories, according to two people present for the sessions."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/29/us/politics/donald-trump-debate.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0" rel="nofollow">New Debate Strategy for Donald Trump: Practice, Practice, Practice</a>Seanhttp://brickcityblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-3135473617860417792016-09-28T11:09:37.228-05:002016-09-28T11:09:37.228-05:00"I guess my point is that Laurie is saying th..."I guess my point is that Laurie is saying that a "just right of center" moderate like me should vote for Clinton because it is a vote for the status quo."<br /><br />I do think that's largely true. The Clinton's are not boat rockers which is why Hillary has such strong support from the Democratic establishment and such little enthusiasm from the Democratic rank and file.<br /><br />Trump is the Ventura candidate in the race, appealing to those who vaguely feel something is wrong but no very clear idea as to what it is and no idea at all as to how to change it.<br /><br />Since we define government growth in terms of expenditures, government will continue to grow since what we spend money on, mainly the aging of the population, will continue to grow. Note that even Donald Trump who wants to protect Social Security and provide universal health care, has proposed nothing at all to stop this trend.<br /><br />--HiramAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-74390214900015979382016-09-28T10:54:46.568-05:002016-09-28T10:54:46.568-05:00Jerry,
How do we know this?
"his management ...Jerry,<br />How do we know this?<br /><br />"his management style-- collaborative and common-sense"<br /><br />Given the challenge he has had keeping campaign staff, the collaborative part seems hard to believe.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-18607778607707148832016-09-28T10:30:17.884-05:002016-09-28T10:30:17.884-05:00"If Hillary wins, she will appoint at least o..."If Hillary wins, she will appoint at least one Supreme Court justice and Republicans in Congress will be powerless to stop her. "<br /><br />Well, they've made their own bed on that one. They should have taken Obama's generous offer of moderate and old Merrick Garland. Instead, they bet on Trump, and if they lose they're going to have to take their medicine.Seanhttp://brickcityblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-24262148006144973142016-09-28T10:01:42.157-05:002016-09-28T10:01:42.157-05:00I think everyone is making one of two mistakes abo...I think everyone is making one of two mistakes about a Trump presidency, basing their speculation on a) what Democrats or their sycophants in the media tell us he will do, or b) trying to divine from his inexact statements and unscripted speaking style what he will do. I choose to look at what we know about his management style-- collaborative and common-sense-- and infer from that he will work with the Republicans in Congress (we hope) to fill in the details and actually solve problems rather than pursue some ideological fantasyland and make "things" worse. <br /><br />Oh, and Laurie? If Hillary wins, she will appoint at least one Supreme Court justice and Republicans in Congress will be powerless to stop her. That alone is enough to get me to vote against her. (unless you believe she will appoint another Scalia, of course)jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-53735377595368672282016-09-28T09:31:16.834-05:002016-09-28T09:31:16.834-05:00Your concerns that Trump and the Conservatives wil...Your concerns that Trump and the Conservatives will balloon the national debt even further is unfortunately a very real concern of mine. To bad we don't have a candidate who wants to:<br /><br />- keep taxes static except for closing the carried interest loop hole and increasing the FICA contribution percentage to stabilize SS/Medicare. (ie premiums aligned with benefits)<br /><br />- fix spending in place until we start paying down the national debt (ie rely on GDP and forcing public employee systems to become more effective / efficient)<br /><br />Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-60624929226335217092016-09-28T09:29:56.839-05:002016-09-28T09:29:56.839-05:00"grow government"
Which candidate in th..."grow government"<br /><br />Which candidate in this race has promised a "deportation force" that will patrol our neighborhoods?<br /><br />"freebies for many"<br /><br />You just like that Donald Trump is giving the freebies to the "right" people.<br /><br />"spend"<br /><br />Trump has promised hundreds of billions in new spending (infrastructure, paid leave, military) and has promised gigantic tax cuts.<br /><br />You can keep rationalizing and explaining it away all you want, but the truth is out there.Seanhttp://brickcityblog.comnoreply@blogger.com