tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post4396922577584888050..comments2024-03-28T10:08:06.291-05:00Comments on Give2Attain: Border Security and Sanctuary CitiesJohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-10702001222066818032017-02-01T09:27:16.950-06:002017-02-01T09:27:16.950-06:00Sounds like a great start to the negotiation. And ...Sounds like a great start to the negotiation. And I don't think the word "tariff" means the same thing to Trump as it does to you. There are obvious ways for Mexico to "pay for the wall" that do not even require Mexico's agreement. My guess is that eventually we will have a win-win here. As far as I'm concerned, the only "ego-driven" thing about Trump is that he wants to have a successful run as President and accomplish what he told everyone he would. It's a Maslow thing.jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-66464774091112426832017-02-01T09:11:36.326-06:002017-02-01T09:11:36.326-06:00The idea that Trump blamed the Mexican government ...The idea that Trump blamed the Mexican government and doubled down on that stupidity by promising that they would pay for OUR wall.<br /><br />Now he is trapped in a pointless argument where his ego takes center stage instead of logic. And it is threatening to increase the cost of our goods and reduce our exports...Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-20261666970838400312017-02-01T08:36:38.376-06:002017-02-01T08:36:38.376-06:00You are complaining about taking everything litera...You are complaining about taking everything literally, while complaining about those who take the Gospel as Gospel. If you look at this the way Trump voters do, you recognize that too many criminals and "crime" comes across our border, potential terrorists come across our border, and we are not making enough effort to stop it. Aside from the words, what is wrong with the concept, here? jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-44241611962091143102017-02-01T08:18:06.208-06:002017-02-01T08:18:06.208-06:00If a candidate in Mexico had said this about Ameri...If a candidate in Mexico had said <a href="https://historymusings.wordpress.com/2015/06/16/full-text-campaign-buzz-2016-june-16-2015-donald-trumps-presidential-announcement-speech-transcript/" rel="nofollow">this about America and Americans we would justifiably upset</a>... Then if they said we had to pay for a wall to protect their country...<br /><br />"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.<br /><br />But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people.<br /><br />It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably— probably— from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast."<br />Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-28102250148248040252017-02-01T03:02:18.036-06:002017-02-01T03:02:18.036-06:00Maybe the Mexicans shouldn't be protecting our...Maybe the Mexicans shouldn't be protecting our border, but they shouldn't get so outraged if we protect our southern border as well as they protect theirs. And maybe you have forgotten the Mexican government "comics" telling its citizens how to cross our border for fun and profit. Trump is right, that stopping the drug cartels is in BOTH our interests. <br /><br />McCain and Graham are prima donas regardless of their votes.jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-13067737322264704302017-01-31T21:08:53.215-06:002017-01-31T21:08:53.215-06:00They seem pretty smack dab in the center of the Re...They seem pretty smack dab in the center of the Republicans.<br /><a href="https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/john_mccain/300071" rel="nofollow">GovTrack McCain</a><br /><a href="https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/lindsey_graham/300047" rel="nofollow">GovTrack Graham</a><br /><br />Private citizen Trump was of little use to Putin, President Trump can drop the sanctions, free up Putin's ill gotten fortune, and let Putin take over other countries. Of course he supported his pawn becoming POTUS.<br /><br />Actually I was reading Trump's idiotic tweets. Unless you think that the Mexicans should be protecting our border for some strange reason...Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-31989646013032490142017-01-31T20:22:24.129-06:002017-01-31T20:22:24.129-06:00McCain and Graham are two Senators proving the old...McCain and Graham are two Senators proving the old adage about never getting between one or both and a TV camera. They are almost Democrats in their ability to say anything just to get airtime. As for Putin, a recent cartoon shows a picture of him and the bubble caption is, "If I really had something on Donald Trump do you think I would let him be President?"<br /><br />And I believe you are getting too much of your news from the MSM. All this manufactured outrage is exactly that-- phony and irrational. The borders need locking down, and we need to quit disadvantaging ourselves on foreign trade. jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-81122319889033537442017-01-31T15:58:04.137-06:002017-01-31T15:58:04.137-06:00What do you think Putin has on Trump anyway?
It m...What do you think Putin has on Trump anyway?<br /><br />It must be something juicy the way Trump sucks up to Putin...Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-17003853861884980532017-01-31T15:56:38.640-06:002017-01-31T15:56:38.640-06:00Some of my favorites:
Two of our most experienced...Some of my favorites:<br /><br />Two of our most experienced Senators are concerned about Trump being soft on Russia. What does Trump think?<br /><br />"The joint statement of former presidential candidates John McCain & Lindsey Graham is wrong - they are sadly weak on immigration. The two..."Senators should focus their energies on ISIS, illegal immigration and border security instead of always looking to start World War III."<br /><br />NY Times is a world famous go to news source... What does Donald think?<br /><br />"The failing @nytimes has been wrong about me from the very beginning. Said I would lose the primaries, then the general election. FAKE NEWS!"<br /><br />The US has gotten cheap goods for decades and the USA is responsible for OUR border... So what does Donald think?<br /><br />"Mexico has taken advantage of the U.S. for long enough. Massive trade deficits & little help on the very weak border must change, NOW!"<br /><br />Trump merchandise came from over seas... Now what does Donald think?<br /><br />"We will follow two simple rules: BUY AMERICAN & HIRE AMERICAN!"Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-53993631690850866062017-01-31T15:47:12.295-06:002017-01-31T15:47:12.295-06:00I think we will have to disagree. I think he beli...I think we will have to disagree. I think he believes he is still on reality TV...<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" rel="nofollow">Donald Trump Twitter</a>Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-48271018084952167412017-01-31T15:34:48.730-06:002017-01-31T15:34:48.730-06:00The House needs to learn to quit running from thei...The House needs to learn to quit running from their shadows in the mainstream media. They should do what is right and let the chits fall where they may. <br /><br />It's like the age-old Republican candidate's dilemma: Should you hew to principle and lose, or forsake principle to win? The correct answer, of course, is to hew to principle and win. People Prefer Principled Politicians. Of course they must be able to articulate it and connect it with people, a task made exceedingly difficult by the unprincipled press.<br /><br />And where do you get "childish"? We finally have an adult in the WH, doing exactly what he said he would do and in short order. "Childish" would be Senate Democrats refusing to show up for confirmation hearings to prevent confirmation. jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-39631124049472783862017-01-31T13:41:27.574-06:002017-01-31T13:41:27.574-06:00I don't know... I could see the House getting...I don't know... I could see the House getting real tired of Trump's childish behavior sooner than later.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-23896810853851467692017-01-31T12:50:07.864-06:002017-01-31T12:50:07.864-06:00Two problems with that formulation: Moral authori...Two problems with that formulation: Moral authority is conferred, not innate, so when Republicans point out that Obama did the same thing, the argument that liberals make "from moral authority" and against Trump has no merit. Second, to impeach requires the President to commit a "high crime and misdemeanor" and the latest EO is perfectly legal, and neither. Not only that, impeachment must begin in the House where Republicans are in firm control. Unless Trump does something just foolishly illegal and gets all Republicans actually upset with him (rather than just afraid of the fear-mongering press), he should be secure for 4 years, at least. jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-13591213701565411392017-01-31T12:26:33.900-06:002017-01-31T12:26:33.900-06:00Obama had and has moral authority that Trump doesn...Obama had and has moral authority that Trump doesn't have. Even Republicans recognize that as they seem to be making the argument to the effect of, if Barack did it that way it must be ok.<br /><br />The real problem is that we have elected a president who is unfit from office, and that sooner or later we are going to have impeach him, or remove him from office using the 25th amendment. It really is only a matter of time.<br /><br />--HiramAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-83140165432017475852017-01-30T08:58:43.242-06:002017-01-30T08:58:43.242-06:00I would like to go back to that "Obama's ...I would like to go back to that "Obama's fierce vetting and deportation activities" quote. My goodness, why all the uproar now that Trump is doing it? jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-64902673339107853412017-01-30T08:57:36.423-06:002017-01-30T08:57:36.423-06:00Fred, I understand your viewpoint, and even agree ...Fred, I understand your viewpoint, and even agree with it somewhat and up to a point. However, I have long subscribed to the old maxim, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." To suggest that a leftist "rationale" exists is to suggest that Leftists are rational, and I do not see how that can be true. They do rationalize, but that's a distinctly different sort of "thinking." jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-22171134361708120672017-01-30T08:25:00.551-06:002017-01-30T08:25:00.551-06:00Hiram offered:
"I will never understand the ...Hiram offered:<br /><br />"I will never understand the Liberal rationale for putting the wants of ILLEGAL workers / residents in front of the needs of LEGAL workers / residents."<br /><br />Why can't you understand it? I certainly understand your point of view. Neither side of the issue is all that complicated. Understanding different points of view, different arguments is really easy if you try.<br /><br />> I understand the rational perfectly. Leftist doctrine teaches the existing status quo must be torn down completely before a communal state dictatorship can be installed. <br /><br />If you look around you, you will see that agenda in action everywhere. Leftists are attacking the family, religion, Caucasians, the heterosexual normative, even proven science. The need to create a void that they can fill with their totalitarian regime. <br /><br />They are making gains, because they laid the groundwork in the public schools. We have two generations of kids that grew up hating America and everything America stands for. Now they are grasping for the reigns of power...the battle is coming.<br /><br />~ FredAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-3244892235500827402017-01-29T18:41:16.893-06:002017-01-29T18:41:16.893-06:00Politifact link<a href="http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/20/donald-trump/trump-misleadingly-puts-black-youth-unemployment-r/" rel="nofollow">Politifact link</a>Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-43899409641086891032017-01-29T18:39:06.568-06:002017-01-29T18:39:06.568-06:00Hiram,
And if we did not have 11 million illegal w...Hiram,<br />And if we did not have 11 million illegal workers who are happy doing those jobs for that wage... Maybe they would pay more.<br /><br />Apparently the employers have enough workers since they have not been raising their wages. Maybe they just keep those help wanted signs up to help generate a list of prospective candidates., since turn over is pretty high.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-70375630432246003362017-01-29T15:30:03.575-06:002017-01-29T15:30:03.575-06:00Here is the proposition: Should we be encouraging...Here is the proposition: Should we be encouraging people to break our laws, harm our citizens, and gain benefits from doing so? Should we allow our elected officials to flaunt those laws? I think not. It's nuts.<br /><br />I say we should start by closing the border, cut off whatever federal funds possible and then arrest a few mayors for criminal conspiracy, or maybe accessory to murder, where applicable. jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-14307918788538391382017-01-29T15:02:50.329-06:002017-01-29T15:02:50.329-06:00http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016...http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/20/donald-trump/trump-misleadingly-puts-black-youth-unemployment-r/<br /><br />This is one time when Politifact, while going out of their way to brand a Trump statement false, also provides evidence for the "alternative fact" and, more generally, proof that black youth unemployment is simply too high and disproportionately so. <br /><br />Now, since these teenagers have acquired no job skills, they are not worth any more in wages, whereas an illegal immigrant is more than happy with it. jerrye92002https://www.blogger.com/profile/01858692298982859775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-83481187223438401702017-01-29T14:38:34.130-06:002017-01-29T14:38:34.130-06:00Nevertheless, if lousy jobs paid more, more people...Nevertheless, if lousy jobs paid more, more people would take them.<br /><br />--HiramAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-6970343454185755572017-01-29T13:30:01.080-06:002017-01-29T13:30:01.080-06:00Unfortunately I think you may be close in your ass...Unfortunately I think you may be close in your assessment.<br /><br />Just think of all those young adults who were left behind by the educrats and baby makers during their early ed & K-12 experience. Now we have a bunch of socially inept high school drop outs that many companies may be unwilling to hire/trust for even the most basic job. <br /><br />And worse yet these potential workers think they deserve better jobs even though the illegal workers are happy to have those jobs.<br /><br />Well if we get rid of the illegal workers, maybe the wages will rise enough to satisfy the discriminating tastes of our legal questionably competent employees.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-22010934436893074732017-01-29T13:16:49.328-06:002017-01-29T13:16:49.328-06:00The lousiness of a job is independent of the perso...The lousiness of a job is independent of the personal qualities of the individuals who refuse to take it.<br /><br />--HiramAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-22275335223636431392017-01-29T13:05:18.945-06:002017-01-29T13:05:18.945-06:00do you think minority unemployment is so high then...do you think minority unemployment is so high then?<br /><br />the wages offered are too low. It's pure supply and demand.<br /><br />--Hiram<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com