tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post7389529306203213205..comments2024-03-18T21:05:49.012-05:00Comments on Give2Attain: Senate Progress on HealthcareJohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-31311107390947399242017-06-14T11:56:31.878-05:002017-06-14T11:56:31.878-05:00"...but it is still just a pittance compared ..."...but it is still just a pittance compared to the urban States."<br /><br />Not according to my previous source.<br /><br />MooseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-56351223872836732082017-06-14T11:51:08.759-05:002017-06-14T11:51:08.759-05:00Imagine how much better off and stable Iraq would ...Imagine how much better off and stable Iraq would be if the Shiites could not run rough shod over the Sunnis and Kurds as they can with their form of government.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-36849357090113564892017-06-14T11:48:13.771-05:002017-06-14T11:48:13.771-05:00Excellent source...
And I believe I was saying......Excellent source...<br /><br />And I believe I was saying...<br /><br />"Now each individual citizen has more power, but it is still just a pittance compared to the urban States."<br /><br />This is a trade off we make to keep America whole and stable. And to ensure the dominant majority of City/Coastal Americans do not run rough shod over everyone else.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-19541116423368038102017-06-14T10:22:06.867-05:002017-06-14T10:22:06.867-05:00Voting Power
You were saying...?
Moose<a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2012/11/presidential_election_a_map_showing_the_vote_power_of_all_50_states.html" rel="nofollow">Voting Power</a><br /><br />You were saying...?<br /><br />MooseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-30279890359544156982017-06-13T17:55:14.975-05:002017-06-13T17:55:14.975-05:00Here is an interesting take on TANF work reqts fro...Here is an interesting take on <a href="https://medium.com/2016-index-of-culture-and-opportunity/most-work-eligible-welfare-recipients-are-not-working-17d0004523b" rel="nofollow">TANF work reqts from our friends at Heritage</a>.<br /><br />Not sure if they are spinning or fact based.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-47027536586806145112017-06-13T16:44:23.857-05:002017-06-13T16:44:23.857-05:00Moose,
Now don't be silly... They still only ...Moose,<br />Now don't be silly... They still only have 3 votes...<br /><br />Now each individual citizen has more power, but it is still just a pittance compared to the urban States.<br /><br />So yes the system is working great. And I am thankful because <a href="https://www.tourwyoming.com/?utm_source=madden&utm_medium=googlecpc&utm_content=visit&utm_campaign=semcwy" rel="nofollow">Wyoming is beautiful</a>.<br /><br />I am always amazed when urban Liberals want to rule the whole country with an iron fist... So much for that tolerance of different beliefs and peoples.<br />Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-3510177685380547632017-06-13T16:38:22.615-05:002017-06-13T16:38:22.615-05:00Sean,
As long as there are people like this writer...Sean,<br />As long as there are <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/06/the_maximum_family_grant_and_family_caps_a_racist_law_that_punishes_the.html" rel="nofollow">people like this writer</a> lobbying for unlimited benefits, I am happy to push on the other side of the equation.<br /><br />And here is an interesting <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/12/05/grothman-single-parents-welfare/?utm_term=.624cce58a4da" rel="nofollow">Fact Check Article</a>.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-5272504355106534452017-06-13T16:35:05.497-05:002017-06-13T16:35:05.497-05:00"Wyoming is still in the USA and there has be..."Wyoming is still in the USA and there has been no talk of secession, even though their State has little power."<br /><br />That's because they actually wield greater electoral power than any other State.<br /><br />MooseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-21748442507488896012017-06-13T16:21:50.163-05:002017-06-13T16:21:50.163-05:00Hiram,
Please remember that even Wyoming has a hal...Hiram,<br />Please remember that even Wyoming has a <a href="http://www.enchantedlearning.com/usa/states/population.shtml" rel="nofollow">half million people living there</a>...<br /><br />I do agree that the people who live in rural areas of the country are often more grounded and understand <a href="https://docushare.edutech.org/dsweb/Get/Document-11514/great.pdf" rel="nofollow">Lifes Greatest Lessons</a> much better.<br /><br />But that is not why their votes are weighted heavier. It is because we want the minority groups to have a voice and we want the USA to keep all of it's states. We do not want the urban people being dictators to everyone else in America.<br /><br />Please note that it works well. Wyoming is still in the USA and there has been no talk of secession, even though their State has little power.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-65952501608988744612017-06-13T15:30:29.146-05:002017-06-13T15:30:29.146-05:00The reason why it's easy to goof on Wyoming is...The reason why it's easy to goof on Wyoming is that since no one lives there, no one will be offended.<br /><br />In the aftermath of the recent election, I heard a number of eloquent explanations why the votes of people who live in nearly unpopulated states should count more than mine. They had a special wisdom, I was told, unique insights into our politics which were the result of living their lives in nearly total isolation, which gave them time they could reading both the constitution and De Toqueville. The ingenuity and cleverness of these arguments was awe inspiring. <br /><br />--HiramAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-88594295154898006762017-06-13T13:51:53.734-05:002017-06-13T13:51:53.734-05:00Somehow implying that some states matter more than...Somehow implying that some states matter more than others because they are "lucky enough to be born" with good ports, good land, good weather, etc. You are starting to sound like someone on the far right.<br /><br />It isn't a question of lucky enough to be born, it's question of being born. When Congress is in session, the state of Wyoming closes down, because all the residents have gone to Washington. It's much more a fiction than than a state.<br /><br />I have to tell you, a few states matter, but most do not. As a rule of thumb, for a state to matter, people actually have to live within it's borders.<br /><br />--HiramAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-2220485004761983212017-06-13T13:44:38.310-05:002017-06-13T13:44:38.310-05:00TANF benefits are time-limited and have work requi...TANF benefits are time-limited and have work requirements. <br /><br />What programs, specifically, do you believe are sufficiently generous and non-demanding that they breed dependence?Seannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-10152399809534442562017-06-13T13:34:02.261-05:002017-06-13T13:34:02.261-05:00Sean,
Let's remember that I want stupid irresp...Sean,<br />Let's remember that I want stupid irresponsible people to be in poverty to the point that they get desperate enough to seriously reconsider their belief systems and they become happy to voluntarily change and improve.<br /><br />Remember that old saying, "You can bring a horse to water but you can not make them drink." Well that is certainly true with horses and dependent people. However if you let the horse get real thirsty they are more likely to drink when water is presented.<br /><br />So I do not know how I would judge success in that report, without taking a great deal of time.<br /><br />Liberals seem to want to make sure the dependent folks are never "thirsty". Which of course keeps them dependent.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-87232420475955223022017-06-13T12:56:24.804-05:002017-06-13T12:56:24.804-05:00"What in particular do you want me to look at..."What in particular do you want me to look at?"<br /><br />Maybe read the link you posted, for starters. The comparison of California and Texas in there is illuminating. The data about some states are siphoning this money to plug holes in their state budget instead of caring poor people ought to sound some alarm bells. The fact that no states have been able to demonstrate via waiver that they have innovative strategies that do better at moving people off of welfare and into work ought to scare the bejeezus out of you (since that's your model for everything!).Seannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-81773448141083635312017-06-13T12:44:30.621-05:002017-06-13T12:44:30.621-05:00Sean,
Different isn't necessarily bad. What i...Sean,<br />Different isn't necessarily bad. What in particular do you want me to look at?<br /><br />Hiram,<br />I find it humorous and ironic when a liberal says something like this.<br /><br />"Only a few states really matter. The rest are fairly hopeless mom and pop operations involving huge amounts of space where hardly anyone lives or works. To pretend that a state like Wyoming, for example, one largely comprised of tumbleweeds, is comparable in any meaningful way to California or Texas is simply absurd."<br /><br />Somehow implying that some states matter more than others because they are "lucky enough to be born" with good ports, good land, good weather, etc. You are starting to sound like someone on the far right... Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-52215281374305571612017-06-13T12:23:10.041-05:002017-06-13T12:23:10.041-05:00"have you checked out some of the states late..."have you checked out some of the states lately?"<br /><br />The states are like NFL football teams. Some are viable and successful. Others are shoestring operations incapable of doing much more than cashing their TV checks. The great merit of Thursday night NFL broadcasts is to remind us how truly awful most NFL teams are. But on television this isn't immediately apparent. Even the worst teams manage to put 11 players on the field most of the time, all of them wearing both helmets and uniforms. The illusion is that compete under conditions of rough equality, the level playing field of which legend speaks which couldn't be further from the truth.<br /><br />Only a few states really matter. The rest are fairly hopeless mom and pop operations involving huge amounts of space where hardly anyone lives or works. To pretend that a state like Wyoming, for example, one largely comprised of tumbleweeds, is comparable in any meaningful way to California or Texas is simply absurd.<br /><br />--HiramAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-1398905717590003692017-06-13T11:00:23.305-05:002017-06-13T11:00:23.305-05:00"An interesting report though I assume people..."An interesting report though I assume peoples take away will vary."<br /><br />I guess I would repeat my previous comment of "have you checked out some of the states lately?"Seannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-19337267627599130102017-06-13T09:52:03.164-05:002017-06-13T09:52:03.164-05:00An interesting report though I assume peoples take...An <a href="http://www.cbpp.org/research/family-income-support/how-states-use-federal-and-state-funds-under-the-tanf-block-grant" rel="nofollow">interesting report</a> though I assume peoples take away will vary.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-37021766520918794892017-06-13T09:42:56.659-05:002017-06-13T09:42:56.659-05:00And let me repeat again...
"Instead you insi...And let me repeat again...<br /><br />"Instead you insist that the Liberals have the correct answers and that they should be free to force all ~320 million citizens to comply." G2AJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-13714704522718755072017-06-13T09:31:55.525-05:002017-06-13T09:31:55.525-05:00I think the Liberals have to own the War on Povert...I think the Liberals have to own <a rel="nofollow">the War on Poverty</a> and the huge increase in welfare and Medicaid.<br /><br />Hopefully the dialing back since 1996 will continue and bear fruit.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-53740220660816814162017-06-13T09:23:01.174-05:002017-06-13T09:23:01.174-05:00"I never understand why you want to think the..."I never understand why you want to think the worse of the State level voters."<br /><br />Have you checked out some of the states lately?<br /><br />"And you seem to forget that those who are treated poorly within their state are free to move to more Liberal enlightened States."<br /><br />It's tough for cancer patients to move.Seannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-80999151731717920982017-06-13T08:44:55.581-05:002017-06-13T08:44:55.581-05:00"Remember all the wonderful things that the l..."Remember all the wonderful things that the liberal agenda has brought us over the past 60 years."<br /><br />By the time of our next Presidential election, Republicans will have controlled the Presidency for 32 of the last 52 years. By 2018, Republicans will have controlled the House of Representatives for 20 of the last 24 years, and the Senate for 20 of the last 38 years. 5 of the 9 Supreme Court Justices were appointed by Republican Presidents. Republicans have an unprecedented-in-recent-history level of control of state governments in this country. If you're unhappy with the situation this country is in, it's pretty clear who's to blame, and it ain't liberals.Seannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-129618284416737582017-06-12T20:55:10.943-05:002017-06-12T20:55:10.943-05:00Remember all the wonderful things that the liberal...Remember all the wonderful things that the <a href="http://www.stateofourunions.org/2009/si-fragile_families.php" rel="nofollow">liberal agenda has brought us over the past 60 years</a>.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/welfare_spending" rel="nofollow">Welfare Spending over the Years</a>Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-3074959687420108472017-06-12T20:51:02.362-05:002017-06-12T20:51:02.362-05:00As for your specific questions:
- Voting ages: Fed...As for your specific questions:<br />- Voting ages: Fed votes set by Feds, State votes set by State<br />- Discriminate: No those are protected classes<br />- Discriminate: LGBT etc: Yes until science comes in.<br />- Deny care: Yes. That is why charities exist.<br /><br />I never understand why you want to think the worse of the State level voters.<br /><br />Continually you insist that they will fail their neighbors.<br /><br />And you seem to forget that those who are treated poorly within their state are free to move to more Liberal enlightened States.<br /><br />Instead you insist that the Liberals have the correct answers and that they should be free to force all ~320 million citizens to comply.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8193628934721963907.post-36737119284388223612017-06-12T20:42:28.785-05:002017-06-12T20:42:28.785-05:00Here is an interesting document.
I am fine with t...Here is an <a href="https://www.nga.org/cms/policy-positions/executive-committee/principles-for-state-federal-relations" rel="nofollow">interesting document</a>.<br /><br />I am fine with the Feds setting some baselines for policy. They should be the lowest acceptable common denominator and then the States should be free to go above them if they wish.<br /><br />I am fine with the Feds sticking to national defense, interstate trade, interstate relations, medicare, social security, etc. Not sure how it got to the point that <a href="https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYONGDA188S" rel="nofollow">they are seizing ~20 percent of the GDP</a> and using it to force the Federal will on everyone.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14991027705809503541noreply@blogger.com