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your title for this post is missing the word want.
I am wondering what it will take for John to stop defending his vote for Trump. It is mind boggling to me how John and the rest of Trumps base sticks with him.
So back to my question... Who are "all the people enabling this nonsense"? Is it the:
- Bernie DEMs who forced the Hillary DEMs to go so far Left that many people just couldn't vote that way? Or their message / candidate that was so flawed that many DEM voters chose to stay home?
- The 16 GOP candidates who squabbled and made it easy for Trump to pick them off?
- Is it that small group of True Trump Believers who have backed him through thick and thin?
What is hard to understand is your blindness to how dangerously unfit for office of president Trump is. Will you change your mind when he has a deeper mental breakdown or starts a war or uses a nuclear weapon? Your explanation for your vote is very lame as Hillary wasn't going to be able to implement her agenda with a GOP congress.
The people enabling this nonsense now are the people working in the West Wing, the GOP Congresscritters, and the media who pretend that the behavior of the President of the United States is normal.
Laurie, What he says and how he behaves seem very different from the actual actions he takes. I think you should try ignoring the noise and be happy that his cabinet, Congress, etc seem to have things well under control.
Sean, So what exactly would like them to do? Should they abandon him or try to impeach him when 40% of the country's citizens still support him?
Please remember that I think the Country has shifted slightly too far Left, so a bit of a tug to the Right is great where as a tug to the Left makes things worse.
Maybe... However given how uncivil both sides have become I am not sure anything good would come of it. It is not like Trump does not tell us all what is on his mind daily.
Trump has too much dementia to hold a press conference. He would come off as an idiot, though that doesn't stop in from giving interviews. I think he would look even more moronic in a press conference than he does in an interview.
I am fine with it, but I really don't see it happening for the reasons Laurie mentioned. I mean Trump floats a lot of fluff even when only one reporter is in the room.
A lot of the cards are being held close to Trump's vest. We don't know, if there is anything at all to know, what Trump is hiding. We know he refuses to release his tax returns. Why not? Is there something nefarious in them? We don't know, but Trump knows and we can assume he acts on the basis of that knowledge. INO, Trump knows he can't withstand a close scrutiny of his business affairs. But hey, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.
"We are a year into many investigations and yet little true fire has been found... A least that we know about."
We know quite a bit, actually. We know that, despite all of the denials, lots of people involved with the Trump campaign had contact with Russians during 2016, including:
Manafort Flynn Trump Jr. Page Gordon Papadapolous Sessions Kushner
We know Trump Jr. sought a meeting with the Russians in search of collusion and we also know he was in contact with WikiLeaks as well.
We know Roger Stone and Rudy Giuliani had pre-knowledge of the Podesta hack being released, and that Stone had been in contact with one of the hackers involved.
We know that the President himself was personally involved in the false statement the government provided regarding the Trump Jr. meeting, and we know he fired the FBI director in order to influence the Russian investigation after asking him to go easy on Flynn.
We know Papadopolous and Flynn made false statements to investigators and we know there was enough evidence of Manafort being engaged in Russia-related money laundering to get an indictment.
Even if only a fraction of what is reported to be in this book is true, it's a damning indictment of all the people enabling this nonsense.
ReplyDeleteWho is that exactly?
ReplyDeleteWolff is not generally seen as a reliable journalist.
ReplyDelete--Hiram
your title for this post is missing the word want.
ReplyDeleteI am wondering what it will take for John to stop defending his vote for Trump. It is mind boggling to me how John and the rest of Trumps base sticks with him.
Laurie,
ReplyDeleteThank you. I corrected the Title.
As for defending my vote... It is pretty simple...
I really disliked Hillary's Left to Far Left platform and voted for the guy who could prevent her from becoming President and pursuing that platform.
I don't like Trump, I have never liked Trump, but I disliked Hillary even more.
And since our system really only offers 2 viable candidates. Why again is that difficult to understand?
So back to my question... Who are "all the people enabling this nonsense"? Is it the:
ReplyDelete- Bernie DEMs who forced the Hillary DEMs to go so far Left that many people just couldn't vote that way? Or their message / candidate that was so flawed that many DEM voters chose to stay home?
- The 16 GOP candidates who squabbled and made it easy for Trump to pick them off?
- Is it that small group of True Trump Believers who have backed him through thick and thin?
- Other?
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ReplyDeleteWhat is hard to understand is your blindness to how dangerously unfit for office of president Trump is. Will you change your mind when he has a deeper mental breakdown or starts a war or uses a nuclear weapon? Your explanation for your vote is very lame as Hillary wasn't going to be able to implement her agenda with a GOP congress.
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The people enabling this nonsense now are the people working in the West Wing, the GOP Congresscritters, and the media who pretend that the behavior of the President of the United States is normal.
ReplyDelete"Hillary's Left to Far Left platform"
ReplyDeleteTrump is further to the right than Hillary was to the left.
Laurie,
ReplyDeleteWhat he says and how he behaves seem very different from the actual actions he takes. I think you should try ignoring the noise and be happy that his cabinet, Congress, etc seem to have things well under control.
Sean,
So what exactly would like them to do? Should they abandon him or try to impeach him when 40% of the country's citizens still support him?
Please remember that I think the Country has shifted slightly too far Left, so a bit of a tug to the Right is great where as a tug to the Left makes things worse.
"So what exactly would like them to do?"
ReplyDeleteFor starters, acknowledging that there are some very unusual and potentially dangerous precedents being sent here.
"I think you should try ignoring the noise and be happy that his cabinet, Congress, etc seem to have things well under control."
ReplyDeleteAnd in the news today, more hypocrisy from the Right, as they again dismantle States' rights regarding the use of marijuana.
Moose
Sean,
ReplyDeleteI think you are correct that the "Trump True Believers" should start insisting that he be honest, consistent, professional, knowledgeable, etc.
However I think the majority of the country, politicians and the news media have challenged Trump often and extremely.
Moose,
I agree... First they go after State Elections and fail miserably... Now they want to become the morality police for States...
"However I think the majority of the country, politicians and the news media have challenged Trump often and extremely."
ReplyDeletePresident Trump has held one solo press conference since taking the Presidency -- it would be useful if he faced some of that challenging directly.
Maybe... However given how uncivil both sides have become I am not sure anything good would come of it. It is not like Trump does not tell us all what is on his mind daily.
ReplyDeleteTrump has too much dementia to hold a press conference. He would come off as an idiot, though that doesn't stop in from giving interviews. I think he would look even more moronic in a press conference than he does in an interview.
ReplyDelete"However given how uncivil both sides have become"
ReplyDeleteUm, Nancy Pelosi doesn't do the questioning.
I am fine with it, but I really don't see it happening for the reasons Laurie mentioned. I mean Trump floats a lot of fluff even when only one reporter is in the room.
ReplyDeleteA lot of the cards are being held close to Trump's vest. We don't know, if there is anything at all to know, what Trump is hiding. We know he refuses to release his tax returns. Why not? Is there something nefarious in them? We don't know, but Trump knows and we can assume he acts on the basis of that knowledge. INO, Trump knows he can't withstand a close scrutiny of his business affairs. But hey, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.
ReplyDelete==Hiram
We are a year into many investigations and yet little true fire has been found... A least that we know about.
ReplyDeleteI hope Mueller wraps up sooner than later...
"We are a year into many investigations and yet little true fire has been found... A least that we know about."
ReplyDeleteWe know quite a bit, actually. We know that, despite all of the denials, lots of people involved with the Trump campaign had contact with Russians during 2016, including:
Manafort
Flynn
Trump Jr.
Page
Gordon
Papadapolous
Sessions
Kushner
We know Trump Jr. sought a meeting with the Russians in search of collusion and we also know he was in contact with WikiLeaks as well.
We know Roger Stone and Rudy Giuliani had pre-knowledge of the Podesta hack being released, and that Stone had been in contact with one of the hackers involved.
We know that the President himself was personally involved in the false statement the government provided regarding the Trump Jr. meeting, and we know he fired the FBI director in order to influence the Russian investigation after asking him to go easy on Flynn.
We know Papadopolous and Flynn made false statements to investigators and we know there was enough evidence of Manafort being engaged in Russia-related money laundering to get an indictment.
Sorry for any confusion, I was focusing on Hiram's comment with regard to Trump himself.
ReplyDeleteI agree that a lot of people did a lot of stupid things...
Not sure if it amounts to collusion... Or if anything sticks to Trump himself.
Or if they were all so ignorant and arrogant that they could not help themselves.
Based on Trump's own public comments, you can make a reasonable case for obstruction of justice.
ReplyDeleteThat's why I said I can't wait for Mueller to wrap the investigation up...
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