Let the law suits begin, our foolish President chose to escalate his war with our Free Press even further, and anger the majority of Americans even further. CNN WH Blocks Press In an SNL skit they guessed that Trump would only last 2 months before Pence took over... Maybe they will be correct.
CNN WH Says They Did Not Try to Manipulate FBI
"CNN and other news organizations were blocked Friday from a White House press briefing. There was no immediate explanation from the White House. The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and Politico were also excluded from the meeting, known as a gaggle. The Associated Press and Time magazine boycotted the briefing because of how it was handled. The White House Correspondents Association is protesting. The conservative media organizations Breitbart News, The Washington Times and One America News Network were allowed in. Hours earlier, at the Conservative Political Action Conference outside Washington, President Trump mocked and disparaged the news media. He said that much of the press represents "the enemy of the people." "They are the enemy of the people because they have no sources," Trump said. "They just make them up when there are none." He also said reporters "shouldn't be allowed" to use unnamed sources. "Latest Poll. NPR People trust media more?
CNN WH Says They Did Not Try to Manipulate FBI
I wouldn't think that any press organization has a legal right, constitutional or statutory, to attend a White House briefing. But the fact that there is something seriously wrong with Mr. Trump is becoming increasingly apparent.
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What Trump doesn't seem to have figured out yet, is that it isn't the White House press corps to whom his administration is leaking like a sieve.
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ReplyDeleteNow I know that his true believers are eating it up, but I wonder if he or they understand how foolish Trump appears to the majority of Americans?
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I think a lot of Trump supporters understand that Trump is not to be taken literally, they seem him playing the media, and of course, the majority of Americans who voted for someone else. Trump communicates with symbols and irony. He is like the Darmok episode of Star Trek the Next Generation.
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I am just hoping SNL is new tonight. I would love to see Melissa playing Spicer as he blocks the reporters from the meeting!!! :-)
ReplyDeleteWow. Trump is a liar and CNN has the proof positive! Or was that just another SNL spoof? Honestly [irony intended] it's getting difficult to tell CNN from The Onion.
ReplyDeleteIf you choose to disregard Trump's lying... That is on you.
ReplyDeleteI may agree with some of Trump's plans but even I can tell when he is telling the truth and when he is lying.
Well he is either lying or he is incompetent.
Really? How do you know? Are they known untruths told for the purpose of deceiving? Or maybe just near-truths that somebody doesn't like?
ReplyDeleteHiram, I love Darmok. I can only hope for "Sokath - his eyes uncovered." But expecting anything except blind resistance from liberals may be "Shaka, When the Walls Fell"
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ReplyDeleteThe Daily Caller list gave you 102 examples of Trump lying. Even if half of them are close, that leaves 51 that are just out right fabricated.
Actually it was 101, but here are some more sources. After 4 years of this, if he makes it and doesn't learn, their files are going to be very full.
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Ah, but did Trump KNOW these things were not true (or accurate)? Did he tell them to deceive people, or just to indicate that a problem of some significant magnitude existed? If I tell you the planet will be 10 degrees hotter by the year 2100, am I lying? No. I cannot know that fact, but I can have my suspicions based on all those "climate scientists" who say 2-8 degrees. And I'm not trying to deceive but to point out what I think is a serious problem (based on my very limited understanding, of course) of global warming, er, climate change.
ReplyDeleteMy point is, what difference does it make? If what he tells you points out a problem, and suggests that problem needs solving, can we not get down to the exact numbers in question as we figure out the solution? If unemployment isn't 20% but 10%, and we move to create more jobs, have we moved in the wrong direction? We are NOT going to create 10% too many jobs, are we?
And that's all they will have, full files. Trump will have rescued the country and have the gratitude of anybody willing to see it. And these intransigent "news" media will be relegated to the irrelevance they deserve.
ReplyDeleteThe reality is that Trump and/or his staff is either incompetent or they are lying.
ReplyDeleteGood intentions are nice, but not a justification.
As you like to remind us, Obama made light with the truth to promote ACA. And I am sure he thought he was doing a good thing.
Do you think that excuses his misleading the voters?
Does it make Trump's fibbing acceptable in any way?
I am thinking not...
what difference does it make?
ReplyDeleteCredibility is something you don't miss when you don't need. The little boy who cried wolf got along just fine right up until the moment he actually encountered a wolf.
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Trump is a driving, alpha male businessman and negotiator, and his relationship to truth is complex at best. In his business life truth was just anther thing to deal with. If it helped him he used it, if it hurt him, he would find a way around it, in many cases leaving other to repair the damage he causes.
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"... staff is either incompetent or they are lying."
ReplyDeleteWhat makes you think those are the only two alternatives? The could be competent liars, incompetent truth-tellers, or they could be just offering faulty evidence for solving problems that everybody already knows about-- in other words, "lies" that people are willing to either believe or excuse because the problem is serious. It isn't "misleading the voters" if they already believe what he is telling them.
As for Obama, you might say he never lied because, for liberals, the truth is whatever they are saying at the moment they say it, despite any previous or future statements, and despite any objective reality.
HIram, I think you are on to something. How many times has the car salesman told you it gets 40 miles to the gallon? Now, the thing probably gets good mileage, and maybe you can drive it carefully to do that well, but it isn't a guarantee and it's probably an exaggeration of the reality. You knew it got good mileage, so you don't call the guy a liar because that's why you like the car in the first place. The "lie" makes you MORE likely to buy the car rather than walk away because of the "lie." Of course, if you hate the car for some reason (or no reason), you call the salesman a liar and try to convince others not to buy the car because of that. It's a very apt analogy you have created. It's almost the definition of "politics."
ReplyDeleteI think you are both on to something...
ReplyDeleteTrump and staff are about as capable and trustworthy as a used car salesman.
Agreed, except we are talking new car salesman, here, and they DO sell cars to people that want to buy one and need the transportation.
ReplyDeleteHow many times has the car salesman told you it gets 40 miles to the gallon?
ReplyDeleteAn issue with the used car salesman is that you don't have a continuing relationship with him. What about someone you do have a relationship with? Someone you need to rely on especially when things are difficult?
Trump is someone who has always left it to others to clean up his messes. Who serves that role in the Trump presidency?
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Sorry but no.
ReplyDeleteWith a new car salesman one is buying a reliable proven vehicle with a great warranty and company to stand behind it.
With Trump, like a used car salesman, he is asking us to trust him with no proof or warranty. Worse yet he has a history of exaggerating, making errors and straight out fibbing. Definitely just like a used car salesman.
With a new car salesman one is buying a reliable proven vehicle with a great warranty and company to stand behind it.
ReplyDeleteThat is, in fact, how buying a used car has changed in recent years. My own sense, is that those factors make negotiation and negotiators irrelevant. That's one of the curious things about Trump in politics. In his business, he often benefited by having more information than the other side. But that isn't something that happens in politics where there are few, if any secrets. Trump whines about this when he complains about leaks, but the fact is spilling the beans is how we roll as a country, and there is no prospect at all of Trump being succesful in turning over the flow of information to the Kellyanne Conways of the world.
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My last car I logged into Consumer Reports new car buying service, told them what I wanted and within 30 minutes I had 3 Twin Cities dealers sending me very good prices... It was very painless.
ReplyDeleteI had 3 Twin Cities dealers sending me very good prices
ReplyDeleteMy experience was very similar. In olden times there wasn't such a thing as the internet, and it made it very hard to do what Wall Street types call "discover prices". With a market that was opaque or at best translucent, having access to information was more difficult and more valuable. This tended to give powerful negotiators an advantage. Trump who is very much a man of the past comes from that era, where getting a good deal on a car was a market of manliness, one no doubt the dealers of the era encouraged. But the internet has changed that, at least for the moderately diligent. Now anyone can get detailed market information along with information about specific cars, and that means there is a lot less scope for negotiation.
Trump is frustrated because he comes from the small, insular world of New York City real estate, where he was a power player. He hasn't yet seemed to grasp that he has moved on to much bigger environment, where he is quite often the weakest player in the room, and that now the power moves he used so successfully in dealing with the widows and orphans of Manhattan can now be used against him.
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