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Just read the fact checks themselves. They use as proof an apples to oranges comparison of what was said with what they "checked." The old bait-and-switch or "how to lie with statistics." Of course, you cannot see that through your blind hatred of the man.
YOU pick one or two. You might find a couple that merit the "factcheck" label. I frankly did not take the time to mentally chase down the flaws in every single one.
My guess is that you did not read critically-- a skill supposedly taught in our ersatz public schools but actually not. How about just look at the first one. It's a lie. Convince me otherwise.
Well since you seem resistant to facing the truth. Here is one of his most blatant and most repeated lies.
“We passed the largest package of tax cuts and reforms in American history.”
This is Trump’s second-favorite falsehood, and this marks the 295th time he said it.
Even before Trump’s tax cut was crafted, he promised it would be the biggest in U.S. history — bigger than Ronald Reagan’s 1981 tax cut. Reagan’s tax cut amounted to 2.9 percent of gross domestic product, and none of the proposals under consideration came close to that level. Yet Trump persisted in this fiction even when the tax cut was eventually crafted to be the equivalent of 0.9 percent of GDP, making it the eighth-largest tax cut in 100 years.
Then there is him claiming "he / government" developed something when it was private industry and modern science did.
"TRUMP: “Another administration would have taken three four, five, maybe even up to 10 years to develop a vaccine. We did in nine months.”
THE FACTS: Actually, the administration didn’t develop any vaccines. Pharmaceutical companies did. And one of the two U.S. companies that have come out with vaccines now in use did not take development money from the government.
Trump’s contention that a vaccine would have taken years under a different administration stretches credulity. COVID-19 vaccines were indeed remarkably fast, but other countries have been developing them, too. A vaccine for the coronavirus is not a singular achievement of the United States, much less the Trump administration.
U.S. drugmaker Pfizer developed its vaccine in partnership with Germany’s BioNTech, eschewing federal money for development, though benefitting from an advance commitment from Washington to buy large quantities if the vaccine succeeded. A vaccine by Moderna, from the U.S., is also in widespread use.
But Britain’s AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine is being administered in several countries and vaccines from China and Russia are also in limited use. More than a dozen potential vaccines are in late stages of testing worldwide."
"TRUMP: “We imposed historic and monumental tariffs on China. ... Our trade relationship was rapidly changing, billions and billions of dollars were pouring into the U.S., but the virus forced us to go in a different direction.”
THE FACTS: That’s a familiar assertion, false to the core.
It’s false to suggest the U.S. never collected tariffs on Chinese goods before he took action. Tariffs on Chinese goods are simply higher in some cases than they were before. It’s also wrong to suggest that the tariffs are being paid by China.
Tariff money coming into the government’s coffers is mainly from U.S. businesses and consumers, not from China. Tariffs are primarily if not entirely a tax paid domestically."
Okay, you picked this one: “We passed the largest package of tax cuts and reforms in American history.”
Right out of the box, the "fact checker(s)" switch to a measure of "percent of GDP." Trump made no such claim, therefore the supposed fact check is itself the lie. QED.
You/They did it again-- tilted the scale. What I want to know was the size of the tax cut in absolute dollars, not "inflation-adjusted." Because I suspect that might make the statement true, which nobody wants to admit. And saying that it is "smaller" fits the simple, malicious goal of denying that Trump arranged any tax cut at all. Give me a choice between Trump's "lies" and the Democrat's denial of the truth and something far to the left of the truth, I'll take the closer of the two.
I am continually baffled by your obsessive need to paint President Trump as a liar. I can only conclude it is your TDS-driven attempt to deny or obscure his many real and significant accomplishments.
OTOH, I look forward to seeing your vigorous pursuit of Joe Biden's lies. I suggest you start with this one: "[We] have created the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
Oh, so it is OK to twist Trump's words around to mean something he never said, but when somebody wants to take Biden literally, it is "out of context"???
The man said, and I quote, "we have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." Words have to mean things, or truth itself goes wanting.
Now, was Biden lying that he was fomenting fraud, and the election was honest, or was he being truthful and the election was indeed fraudulent by design?
"Biden, Oct. 24: But one of the things that I think is most important is those who haven’t voted yet, first of all go to IWILLVOTE.com to make a plan exactly how you’re going to vote, where you’re going to vote, when you’re going to vote. Because it can get complicated, because the Republicans are doing everything they can to make it harder for people to vote — particularly people of color — to vote. So go to IWILLVOTE.com.
Secondly, we’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration — President Obama’s administration before this — we have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. What the president is trying to do is discourage people from voting by implying that their vote won’t be counted, it can’t be counted, we’re going to challenge it and all these things. If enough people vote, it’s going to overwhelm the system.
You see what’s happening now, you guys know it as well as I do, you see the long, long lines and early voting. You see the millions of people who have already cast a ballot. And so, don’t be intimidated. If in fact you have any, any problem go to — and I don’t have the number but it’s 833-DEM-VOTE… Call that number. We have over a thousand lawyers, over a thousand of them, they’ll answer the phone, if you think there’s any challenge to your voting. Go to 833-DEM-VOTE, dial those letters on your phone. That will get you the assistance that we have already put in place."
Wow. Once again, every lie "found" is a lie told by the "fact checker."
ReplyDeleteThey provide sources proving that they are correct.
ReplyDeleteWhich statement do you think they got wrong that you would you like me to fact check further?
Or are you going to admit that Trump simply can not make it through a speech without lying?
Just read the fact checks themselves. They use as proof an apples to oranges comparison of what was said with what they "checked." The old bait-and-switch or "how to lie with statistics." Of course, you cannot see that through your blind hatred of the man.
ReplyDeleteJust pick one already...
ReplyDeleteYOU pick one or two. You might find a couple that merit the "factcheck" label. I frankly did not take the time to mentally chase down the flaws in every single one.
ReplyDeleteMy guess is that you did not read it. Oh well... Keep that head in the sand.
ReplyDeleteMy guess is that you did not read critically-- a skill supposedly taught in our ersatz public schools but actually not. How about just look at the first one. It's a lie. Convince me otherwise.
ReplyDeleteWell since you seem resistant to facing the truth. Here is one of his most blatant and most repeated lies.
ReplyDelete“We passed the largest package of tax cuts and reforms in American history.”
This is Trump’s second-favorite falsehood, and this marks the 295th time he said it.
Even before Trump’s tax cut was crafted, he promised it would be the biggest in U.S. history — bigger than Ronald Reagan’s 1981 tax cut. Reagan’s tax cut amounted to 2.9 percent of gross domestic product, and none of the proposals under consideration came close to that level. Yet Trump persisted in this fiction even when the tax cut was eventually crafted to be the equivalent of 0.9 percent of GDP, making it the eighth-largest tax cut in 100 years.
Then there is him claiming "he / government" developed something when it was private industry and modern science did.
ReplyDelete"TRUMP: “Another administration would have taken three four, five, maybe even up to 10 years to develop a vaccine. We did in nine months.”
THE FACTS: Actually, the administration didn’t develop any vaccines. Pharmaceutical companies did. And one of the two U.S. companies that have come out with vaccines now in use did not take development money from the government.
Trump’s contention that a vaccine would have taken years under a different administration stretches credulity. COVID-19 vaccines were indeed remarkably fast, but other countries have been developing them, too. A vaccine for the coronavirus is not a singular achievement of the United States, much less the Trump administration.
U.S. drugmaker Pfizer developed its vaccine in partnership with Germany’s BioNTech, eschewing federal money for development, though benefitting from an advance commitment from Washington to buy large quantities if the vaccine succeeded. A vaccine by Moderna, from the U.S., is also in widespread use.
But Britain’s AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine is being administered in several countries and vaccines from China and Russia are also in limited use. More than a dozen potential vaccines are in late stages of testing worldwide."
And one of my favorites because it is SO WRONG.
ReplyDelete"TRUMP: “We imposed historic and monumental tariffs on China. ... Our trade relationship was rapidly changing, billions and billions of dollars were pouring into the U.S., but the virus forced us to go in a different direction.”
THE FACTS: That’s a familiar assertion, false to the core.
It’s false to suggest the U.S. never collected tariffs on Chinese goods before he took action. Tariffs on Chinese goods are simply higher in some cases than they were before. It’s also wrong to suggest that the tariffs are being paid by China.
Tariff money coming into the government’s coffers is mainly from U.S. businesses and consumers, not from China. Tariffs are primarily if not entirely a tax paid domestically."
Okay, you picked this one:
ReplyDelete“We passed the largest package of tax cuts and reforms in American history.”
Right out of the box, the "fact checker(s)" switch to a measure of "percent of GDP." Trump made no such claim, therefore the supposed fact check is itself the lie. QED.
Here is a different analysis with the same result...
ReplyDeleteThe dollar impact of the 2017 tax bill was much smaller than the Bush Tax Cuts or Obama's re-authorization of the tax cuts.
Not sure what Trump was thinking since he did not quantify his claims as usual.
ReplyDeleteYou/They did it again-- tilted the scale. What I want to know was the size of the tax cut in absolute dollars, not "inflation-adjusted." Because I suspect that might make the statement true, which nobody wants to admit. And saying that it is "smaller" fits the simple, malicious goal of denying that Trump arranged any tax cut at all. Give me a choice between Trump's "lies" and the Democrat's denial of the truth and something far to the left of the truth, I'll take the closer of the two.
ReplyDeleteOkay, I did the math for you and the 2017 tax cut was $184.5 Bil in 2012 dollars.
ReplyDeleteWhich still makes it far smaller than Obama's 2 tax cuts...
You are free to choose to believe Trump's alternative reality.
I just don't think it is healthy.
I am continually baffled by your obsessive need to paint President Trump as a liar. I can only conclude it is your TDS-driven attempt to deny or obscure his many real and significant accomplishments.
ReplyDeleteOTOH, I look forward to seeing your vigorous pursuit of Joe Biden's lies. I suggest you start with this one: "[We] have created the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
Trump was just very special... He not only lied blatantly, he repeated those lies often even after he was proven wrong... He had no sense of shame or embarrassment?
ReplyDeleteAs for your Biden quote Fact Check
Oh, so it is OK to twist Trump's words around to mean something he never said, but when somebody wants to take Biden literally, it is "out of context"???
ReplyDeleteThe man said, and I quote, "we have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." Words have to mean things, or truth itself goes wanting.
Now, was Biden lying that he was fomenting fraud, and the election was honest, or was he being truthful and the election was indeed fraudulent by design?
Here is what he said... Could he have said it more clearly? Probably.
ReplyDeleteWas he simply encouraging people to get out and vote? Yes
IWILLVOTE.com certainly does not seem nefarious.
"Biden, Oct. 24: But one of the things that I think is most important is those who haven’t voted yet, first of all go to IWILLVOTE.com to make a plan exactly how you’re going to vote, where you’re going to vote, when you’re going to vote. Because it can get complicated, because the Republicans are doing everything they can to make it harder for people to vote — particularly people of color — to vote. So go to IWILLVOTE.com.
Secondly, we’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration — President Obama’s administration before this — we have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. What the president is trying to do is discourage people from voting by implying that their vote won’t be counted, it can’t be counted, we’re going to challenge it and all these things. If enough people vote, it’s going to overwhelm the system.
You see what’s happening now, you guys know it as well as I do, you see the long, long lines and early voting. You see the millions of people who have already cast a ballot. And so, don’t be intimidated. If in fact you have any, any problem go to — and I don’t have the number but it’s 833-DEM-VOTE… Call that number. We have over a thousand lawyers, over a thousand of them, they’ll answer the phone, if you think there’s any challenge to your voting. Go to 833-DEM-VOTE, dial those letters on your phone. That will get you the assistance that we have already put in place."
Now if you want Biden's Real Lies. Here you go.
ReplyDelete