Thursday, April 14, 2016

Black Minnesotans Unite

MP Black Minnesotans  We will see if my comment gets through the moderator...
"The common theme I hear from BLM and other organizations is that they just want to be treated like everyone else... That people should treat them as people, not Black people. Racism should end.

And yet this whole effort seems to be aimed at uniting people based on their race and promoting special benefits that will be determined based on race.

I also sense some puzzlement that foreign born Blacks are far more likely to associate with Whites and other foreign born Blacks. Which is odd to me if skin color / race is not supposed to matter. Personally I am just hoping that the Blacks who migrated here keep their perspective and attitude that America is the land of opportunity instead of shifting towards a victim mentality.

I support Morgan Freeman's view.  Ending Racism by Morgan Freeman" G2A
What frustrates and/or concerns me the most is that young Black immigrants like my recent energetic Ethiopian cab driver may be sucked into the Victim Mentality that many of our local Blacks suffer from. (By the way, this VM link is to a different site than usual)  Enjoy !!!

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

The common theme I hear from BLM and other organizations is that they just want to be treated like everyone else... That people should treat them as people, not Black people. Racism should end.

The common theme I hear from BLM is that the police should stop brutalizing black people.

--Hiram

jerrye92002 said...

Recent statistics say the "Ferguson effect" is real. Chicago and Baltimore both report something over 50% drop in nonfatal shooting arrests and in homicide arrests. You can "stop brutalizing black people" and they then brutalize each other without consequence.

The St. Paul schools are another example of where treating people equally based on behavior is vastly better than treating them equally based on race.

Anonymous said...

You can "stop brutalizing black people" and they then brutalize each other without consequence.

I was just noting what there message was. I wasn't saying whether it was right or wrong. There is lots of violence to go around I suppose, but what BLM seems to be focusing on violence of police directed against black people.

--Hiram

jerrye92002 said...

An interesting point and line of reasoning, Hiram. I have noted it often in these and other discussions, particular with those of a more liberal persuasion. If one raises a good, logical and direct point, the liberal response is very often the non-sequitur or the tu quoque, neither of which addresses the issue at hand. In this case, it is, one assumes since we would call BLM the "liberal" side of this debate, that it is conservatives raising the ancillary question of black-on-black violence as the REASON for the police presence and the tiny few but unfortunate cases of blacks (a soupcon of them innocent) being shot by police.

In this case, though, I think the logical position is that there must be some balance to the argument made by the BLM people. The are outraged and driven to massive demonstrations by something like .06% of the violence against black people, while doing absolutely nothing about the rest, which is increasing as a result of their actions. It seems the ultimate in irresponsibility.

Anonymous said...

There are lots of reasons for things being the way they are, some being more persuasive and relevant than others. In general, one guy getting his head bashed on one street is perhaps less than consoled by the fact that someone else is getting their head bashed in, a couple of blocks over.

--Hiram

John said...

Yes, but making all police officers second guess themselves may mean that neither of the people with busted heads will get any assistance.

Anonymous said...

Put another way, who needs who the most? The Comcasts and Dishes of the world? Or channels like FOX Sports North?

In talking about some instances of police violence, the focus has been on potential criminal liability. But it's important to keep in mind while a specific action may not rise to the level of a violation of a criminal statute, that doesn't mean it wasn't wrong or negligent or even grossly negligent. It's also worth keeping in mind that basically, a prosecutor can only bring charges if he thinks he can get a conviction of a crime. A decision not to prosecute is nothing like a vindication of the actions taken, or for that matter, a statement that no crime was committed. Legal proceedings are about what can be proven, not about what is true.

--Hiram

John said...

As I said... Keep beating the policemen for bad things happening when they are trying really hard to keep the streets safe... And it is likely they will not try so hard in the future.

Comic 1
Comic 2
Comic 3