This man certainly is delusional, he seems to think that eliminating a "little itty bitty" tax is the same as Repealing Obamacare. Does he really think his True Believers are that STUPID?
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I mean that was one of the biggest problems with ACA, many people were okay paying the "itty bitty" tax penalty. So many healthy people did not get insurance and the pools suffered.
G2A Sean's Healthcare Improvement Plan
And though Trump's actions are weakening the plan and raising premiums, many of the protections are still in place. And ironically because of the GOP's efforts to kill ACA... It is getting more and more popular by the month.
Maybe the GOP is trying to commit suicide in a grand fashion. I mean they passed a relatively unpopular tax cut bill and are trying kill a very popular healthcare law. The DEMs have to be loving this...
Politico Wounding ACA
PBS Impact of Tax Bill
NPR Impact of Tax Bill
RCP Impact of Tax Bill
CNN Trump Thinks He Tricked Everyone Into Repealing Obamacare
I mean that was one of the biggest problems with ACA, many people were okay paying the "itty bitty" tax penalty. So many healthy people did not get insurance and the pools suffered.
G2A Sean's Healthcare Improvement Plan
And though Trump's actions are weakening the plan and raising premiums, many of the protections are still in place. And ironically because of the GOP's efforts to kill ACA... It is getting more and more popular by the month.
Maybe the GOP is trying to commit suicide in a grand fashion. I mean they passed a relatively unpopular tax cut bill and are trying kill a very popular healthcare law. The DEMs have to be loving this...
Politico Wounding ACA
PBS Impact of Tax Bill
NPR Impact of Tax Bill
RCP Impact of Tax Bill
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I am also puzzled why the GOP folks keep bragging about doubling the Standard Deduction when they eliminated the personal Exemptions... I am guessing a lot of people are going to be very angry when they figure out that their taxable income went up after this supposedly wonderful "tax cut".
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Makes taxes simpler, I suppose. More people won’t have t keep track of thei charitable deductions.
— Hiram
But why get rid of the exemptions if they wanted "A Tax Cut for Normal People"...
It seems they gave some on the child tax credits side while taking away on the exemptions side.
Pretty much making it a wash. The only benefit it seems is the rate change.
Something like 85% of us will get an actual, real tax cut. I think most people would vote for that-- about 85% of them, anyway.
And are you calling those 6.5 million Americans who chose to pay the penalty for not buying something they couldn't afford, didn't want and couldn't use stupid for obeying the law as written? Do you think that NOT paying that penalty is going to be seen as a tax cut?
Jerry,
I don't think I am going to see much of a tax cut, and may see an increase.
I hope the stock market or wage increases offset any increase...
What is the source for your claims?
How do you justify letting the National Debt grow so people can get a tax cut today.
Personally I think a lot of citizens are against passing our debt to our children. I sure am.
Please remember what happened the last times Reagan and Bush approved this same silly strategy.
Too bad for our children that it seems the GOP never learns.
Trump isn't delusional. He creates his own reality. He sees the world in terms of winning and losing, not in terms of successful or unsuccessful outcomes. He knows little and cares little about health care policy. Before his involvement in politics he was a single payer guy. But as a politician now, health care is a battle, and battles need to be won. So he did what a lot of generals do, found a way to define what happened as a victory. Isn't it strange that people who are allowed to define victory for themselves hardly ever lose? I mean what are the odds?
--Hir
The "silly strategy" recognizes that tax cuts are easier to enact then spending reductions. Just that simple. And since Democrats voted irrationally and unanimously against letting people keep more of their own money, one can only imagine how vexatious they will be at the entirely sensible idea of living within their means. Balanced budget amendment, anybody?
Oh give me a break... The GOP loves to spend just as much as the DEMs do.
That is why we robbing from our children and grandchildren
Remember this excellent article.
At least the GOP is ideologically opposed to deficit spending, whereas Democrats like Nancy Pelosi didn't bat an eye when Obama was running up trillion-dollar deficits every year, but now thinks it is "Armageddon" that debt will increase by 1.5 trillion over TEN years. Sometimes spending cuts are proposed in Congress. Which side loudly opposes them? Give me a break... it's not even close.
It is a good chart, proving we do indeed have a spending problem. But 1950-2012, Republicans controlled the Congress 16 of the 62 years, almost all recently and during Democrat administrations. Simply allocating blame based on control...
"At least the GOP is ideologically opposed to deficit spending"
Not opposed to it in reality, though.
"when Obama was running up trillion-dollar deficits every year,"
Inherited from the previous Administration and cut by nearly 2/3 over the rest of his term.
"Give me a break... it's not even close."
Republicans are responsible for the largest welfare state expansion in this century, all of which was put on the credit card.
Jerry, Looks like you need to do some historical research.
There was no real Obama spending inferno... Bush and Obama both understood that stimulus spending was need in 2008 and 2009... And by 2010 the GOP / Obama gridlock kicked in.
Now please feel free to blame who you wish for the spending, however the GOP clearly owns passing tax cuts that were not paid for in equivalent spending cuts.
The DEMs for all their faults do seem to be more fiscally responsible. If they spend, they demand equivalent taxation.
Sorry, but I remember clearly the Reagan-O'Neill budget agreement, where tax cuts and spending cuts would occur together. Reagan got his Republican tax cuts, but the Democrats increased spending. If you want to blame both, you can, but it doesn't seem fair.
As for the Bush-Obama stimulus, remember that what Bush proposed was relief for individuals and needed infrastructure. Obama twisted that around to bailout the banks and reward his union toadies. That is why you saw statistics like "up to $4.1 million per job." Spending is a problem. Wasteful spending is a travesty.
As for Trump's false claim about repealing ACA...
It seems a WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE sure have not heard the word.
Or perhaps they ARE informed. With the huge subsidies still available and no ready alternatives, they take what they can get. And the most ridiculous part of Obamacare is gone, the notion that you must pay to NOT buy something. It's like telling you that your new car can be delivered WITHOUT the extra chrome strip, but it will cost you extra.
"Reagan got his Republican tax cuts, but the Democrats increased spending."
Funny Reagan how still signed those budgets he was so opposed to.
"Obama twisted that around to bailout the banks and reward his union toadies."
TARP was passed under the Bush Administration.
Now you are just being silly...
These 8 million people are likely:
- uninsurable elsewhere because of pre-existing conditions
- getting a big subsidy so the excellent insurance is cheap
What is there not to like for them?
"TARP was passed under the Bush Administration." And administered under Obama.
"What is there not to like for them? "
Exactly. But if it's so great, why did almost that many pay a tax to NOT buy it? And why should they? For that matter, why are WE paying extra for what somebody else gets on the cheap?
That is usually what everything comes down to...
"Why are WE paying extra for what somebody else gets on the cheap?
It is a sad state of affairs, especially when it is coming from Christian... :-(
The answer is that for some reason... They are poor or low income.
It reminds me of when my daughters were in Creative Play. (ie RDale pre-school) They had a sliding fee scale and of course I have always had to pay full fee.
I guess I could have been angry that I was paying more...
Instead I was thankful that I could pay more and not even notice the bill.
I wasn't referring to the fact that I pay extra taxes to subsidize somebody else's health care. I was complaining because the cost of my health care went up dramatically to buy things I don't want or need or care to buy.
My big objection to the taxes-- a separate issue-- is that it's a horribly inefficient government-run health care system.
Under ACA the government is not operating the health care system...
They are setting minimum standards/limits of insurance coverage, operating market places and subsidizing the cost for the poor.
By the way, Medicare is incredibly efficient and I would love to nationalize our system... Except for the fact that once it was a monopoly it would degrade quickly.
Splitting dirty hairs. They set what it is, and that drives what you get, where you get it, and what you pay. That is the antithesis of a free-market system.
You do not want Medicare, trust me. It is very efficient at writing the checks, but it drives up prices and drives down quality, inevitable in the near-monopoly they already have.
They set "minimums", you are free to buy anything above that from where ever you want.
If you dislike Medicare, maybe you should by some supplemental insurance.
Another relevant link
Wait a minute! If Medicare is such great value-- great care for less money-- then why do I need to pay more money to get better care?
What if I want to buy something LESS than the minimum, in some other form, like a pre-paid plan?
The prepaid has been deemed not adequate to handle all normal potential chronic health issues.
Just like some guy who wants to carry $10,000 in auto liability insurance. To allow it is to transfer risk from the individual to others, society and tax payers.
Please remember that Medicare is a "base coverage" program to ensure the old are taken care of.
Now if you read the link, those experts think Medicare add on plans are a waste of money unless you are really ill. I know that you think Medicare is "inadequate" and that we should be able to pay for better if we wish. And apparently we are free to do so.
Now for the big question are we actually willing to pay for Cadillac care?
"deemed" by WHOM? Seemed completely adequate to me when I had it.
If Medicare is "base coverage" then it does no good to have "Medicare for all."
You are NOT free to do so. You must take Medicare, and the supplements are tightly regulated.
And you still insist that taxpayers are responsible for those who have been irresponsible. Why?
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