Friday, November 13, 2020

A Map for Deniers of Reality

 Biden won by 5.3 Million votes.

And even if GA, PA and NC went to Trump.  

Biden would still win. The question is when will we start supporting our new President Elect?

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

We can be thankful that we have a president who has plurality and even majority support, and the political legitimacy those things provide. Who knows how much worse the Trump years were because his presicency was the result of a process that could deliver him the office but couldn't deliver credibility? Would Trump have been a better president had he not been so acutely aware that a majority of the American people believed he didn't deserve it?

--Hiram

John said...

I think Trump is Trump...

Not sure he can change...

Anonymous said...

A constitutional system that fails to deliver political legitimacy to people who are chosen for public office according to the rules it establishes is inherently and possibly fatally flawed. Obviously Trump had deeper problems but from the moment he was chosen, he knew that he did not have the support of the American people. That couldn't have been good.

==Hiram

John said...

Do you think Trump even cared?

In his mind "he won by record numbers"...

And "3 million illegals voted in California"

Anonymous said...

Do you think Trump even cared?

I think Trump obsessed about it. All of his life, I think he craved respect, was fearful that he wasn't taken seriously. What happened to hims with respect to the presidency was his worst nightmare. And really, our system owes us and owes those who participate in it more. At some point, we are going to have to end the Supreme Court's intervention in our nation's politics. That will be made considerably easier by the tainted nominating process that result in three Trump appointed justices. It was our deeply flawed system that made that possible.

--Hiram

John said...

Whatever...

Anonymous said...

I am just intrigued by how Republicans get out of the corner our president is so carefully painting them in. As another cliche goes, the first rule of getting out of a hole is to stop digging. Trump is expanding the size of the hole he is digging.

Republicans achieved a lot in the last four years. They have taken virtually complete control of the federal judiciary for generations to come, ensuring for themselve a substantial if not dominant role in the governing of our nation no matter what the outcome of elections. In doing so, they have retained the control of the senate, and with it the obstructive power they need to thwart any Democratic agenda while setting themselves up for electoral victories in 2022 and 2024. Why would they want to jeoeparidize that as would certainly happen if they challenged the legitimacy of a process which has been on the whole so advantageous to them?

--Hiram

John said...

That implies that the Trump voters see this as a fair honest election...

Unfortunately many of them seem as delusional as Trump... :-(


The GOP Right does not to be saying the Emperor has no clothes while the Emperor is still very popular amongst GOP voters.

Anonymous said...

That implies that the Trump voters see this as a fair honest election...

I think that's a choice they make. It's a choice we had to make four years ago. And bear in mind, we were asked to accept four years ago the result of an election that meant the defeat of our candidate who won the popular vote by three million.

The problems we are having with legitimacy are deep seated and destructive. We survived, barely, four years of a presidency without popular support. And one of our two major parties want to make minority presidencies the norm. And they also want to govern from a minority position through their control of the senate and the courts. This is a very big problem.

--Hiram

John said...

And the other party wants to govern at the Federal level and force all people in all states to comply... Yep... We have problems.