No matter what Liberals say. They claim double standards, racism and other silly concepts.
Let's try to remember that the US asylum system is there to help people when their country is invaded, their government wants them dead, a reward for people who helped the USA, etc.
Trying to compare prioritizing 100,000 Ukrainians or 10's of thousands from Afghanistan to literally Tens of MILLIONS from Central America is just silly false equivalency.
Thoughts?
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People are people, no matter where they come. The fact is, other countries have also offered to take Ukrainian refugees. But the fact is, I don't see our policy toward Ukrainian refugees as hypocritical because it is so minimal.
--Hiram
"minimal"
Just curious. How many people do you think the USA should allow to immigrate here annually?
Certainly considerably more that 100,000.
I was amused at how quickly the hypocrisy narrative appeared. But in any event, there are policy issues to be considered, and I am not that interested in having them affected by a fear of hypocrisy labelling.
I think it's time to make a concession here, an admission that I was wrong, and that Trump was right. We should have recognized from the outset of his rule that Putin was a KGB thug. Surely there was enough evidence out there, and it was convincing. Putin received backing and credibility from western leaders he did not deserve. We should never have allowed the west to become dependent on Russian energy. It is clear now, that the reason why energy prices were so low for so long that we in the west were too dependent on Russian energy. We are paying the price for that now.
Oh well.
--Hiram
Hiram,
Some Facts and Data for you...
The U.S. foreign-born population reached a record 44.8 million in 2018. Since 1965, when U.S. immigration laws replaced a national quota system, the number of immigrants living in the U.S. has more than quadrupled. Immigrants today account for 13.7% of the U.S. population, nearly triple the share (4.8%) in 1970. However, today’s immigrant share remains below the record 14.8% share in 1890, when 9.2 million immigrants lived in the U.S.
More than 1 million immigrants arrive in the U.S. each year. In 2018, the top country of origin for new immigrants coming into the U.S. was China, with 149,000 people, followed by India (129,000), Mexico (120,000) and the Philippines (46,000).
And it looks like Europeans are in the minority... :-)
A bit more of the list
Country Immigrants
Mexico 11,171,893
India 2,652,853
China 2,221,943
Philipp 2,013,756
El Salv 1,419,330
Vietnam 1,345,753
Cuba 1,343,960
Dom Rep 1,177,864
S Korea 1,039,099
Guatema 1,006,987
Canada 813,664
Colomb 789,561
Jamaica 733,429
UK 699,193
Haiti 687,186
Hondur 646,253
Germany 559,102
Brazil 472,637
Peru 467,172
Ecuador 443,105
Poland 398,786
Venezue 393,841
Taiwan 390,150
Russia 383,305
Iran 381,951
Pakistan 379,103
Nigeria 374,711
Japan 361,565
Ukraine 325,885
Just as a matter of law, this statement is not true:
"Let's try to remember that the US asylum system is there to help people when their country is invaded, their government wants them dead, a reward for people who helped the USA, etc."
Here's the code: 8 U.S. Code § 1158 - Asylum
"The term “refugee” means (A) any person who is outside any country of such person’s nationality or, in the case of a person having no nationality, is outside any country in which such person last habitually resided, and who is unable or unwilling to return to, and is unable or unwilling to avail himself or herself of the protection of, that country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of:
race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion,
or (B) in such special circumstances as the President after appropriate consultation (as defined in section 1157(e) of this title) may specify, any person who is within the country of such person’s nationality or, in the case of a person having no nationality, within the country in which such person is habitually residing, and who is persecuted or who has a well-founded fear of persecution on account of:
race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.
The term “refugee” does not include any person who ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. For purposes of determinations under this chapter, a person who has been forced to abort a pregnancy or to undergo involuntary sterilization, or who has been persecuted for failure or refusal to undergo such a procedure or for other resistance to a coercive population control program, shall be deemed to have been persecuted on account of political opinion, and a person who has a well founded fear that he or she will be forced to undergo such a procedure or subject to persecution for such failure, refusal, or resistance shall be deemed to have a well founded fear of persecution on account of political opinion."
Sean,
I stand corrected and yet I do not think I was that far off.
"race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion."
Why do you think normal people from Central America deserve asylum?
Ukraine Temporary Protected Status
"Why do you think normal people from Central America deserve asylum?"
I never said they do. Most such asylum claims are denied, but under current law, they are entitled to make that claim.
Yes they are, however it wastes a LOT of tax dollars.
And turning them away does not indicate racism.
Though it is hard for many Liberals to accept that reality.
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