So I threw my normal views into the fray(MinnPost Mills Four Pillars):
"It seems Local and State governments should be caring for their citizens. The feds should be worrying about national defense and other issues. I'll never understand why Liberals want to fund programs that help individual citizens at the highest possible level of government... Thereby ensuring at least 3 levels of bureaucracy and waste are needing to be funded.
Please also note that the farm program funds also pay for "nutritional assistance" for middle and upper class children... http://www.fns.usda.gov/nslp/national-school-lunch-program . No matter who you are, the tax payers are paying for part or all of your child's school breakfast, snacks, lunch, etc... It seems there is some unnecessary spending there... I think I could afford to buy my children lunch.
The Bible speaks of charity and voluntarily caring for the less fortunate. Through this process of giving, both parties receive. I must have missed the part that said "though shall forcibly steal from Peter and give to Paul"... Even if Paul just isn't motivated to work hard, makes poor choices, etc. I'll have to go look through it again. Do you have a chapter and verse to point me in the correct direction. Don't forget to pry your wallet open on 14Nov13."http://givemn.razoo.com/giving_events/GTMD13/home?" G2AWhich of course led to comments like this:
"If you'd like to know why liberals want SNAP and other programs federally funded as opposed to the local and state level, look no further than your own comments. Too many states with Republican majority legislature or governors have the exact same attitude such as yours...that people who need assistance are lazy. They've done everything they can to shame and cast dispersions on the less fortunate, the jobless & the homeless You assume that if you can buy your kid lunch, everyone else should be able to. It's so easy to pass judgement on others without any knowledge of their personal struggles, but that eliminates any need to feel empathy. Just the fact that you can equate SNAP with "forcibly stealing" from you, illustrates why I want people like you to have zero influence as to who gets help." JasonSo I challenged Jason regarding Give to the Max, to see who empathized more with the poor when it comes to spending their own personal funds to help them? And who preached well on spending other peoples money, while being a miser with their own? Unfortunately we may never get an answer because about 4 of my comments have never show up, and some were there and then censored.
So apparently in the eyes of the MinnPost moderators it is okay for Liberal commenters to insult the "Bible Thumper Politcal Party Hypocrites", and insult Conservative governors (and me personally), since their comments are still there. However comments that point out the inconsistencies of the Liberal position are censored.
At least I understand now why there are not many Conservative commenters on the site. They learned faster than I do. I understand this censorship from MPP, they are a Liberal blog. I didn't expect this from a "non-partisan news" site.
By the way, here are some links I had provided for Dan and RB... They can support both sides of the argument.
Open Bible: Welfare
Open Bible: Hard Work
Also, I am thankful for Jason's honesty. He said what I believe is the truth. Liberals believe they know better how to take care of people in "all states" than the people in "each state". Thus they don't trust local people to make the "CORRECT" decision for their neighbors, friends and relatives. They believe THEY know best, therefore they want to FORCE everyone to comply by making it happen at the Federal level. No matter how much extra it costs or how ineffective it is.
They sound kind of like the "Bible Thumpers" to me. Thoughts?
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it seems to me you are being paranoid or overly sensitive to comment moderation. I wouldn't take it personally or as some conspiracy
as for federally funded anti poverty programs, I think much money is sent to the states in the form of block grants to administer. Perhaps federal regulations are more efficient than 50 different sets of state regulations. I think federally funded works well for a couple reasons; one being that richer states can help fund the programs for less rich states and the other that more generous states don't become too attractive for people in need of assistance.
I truly hope I am being paranoid, only time will tell. I would like to think that a "non-partisan site" would try to ensure that their moderators are not being biased. I'll keep trying to comment there, however I sure won't put much time into the comments if only 30% of them will get published.
Now are we robbing from MN to give to MS... (ie instead of Peter and Paul) It must be a Liberal thing that I don't understand....
Ooh, you made good choices, saved and invested... We should take more from you and give it to those who made questionable choices, spent and went in debt...
I just can't see how that leads anywhere good in the long run.
It makes about the same sense to me as government subsidizing insurance payments for people that choose to live in flood plains... We are assuming some of their risk, and encouraging them to make bad decisions, since they will not bear the full consequences of the decision.
Kind of like telling a teenager that you will buy them a new Iphone if they brake or lose theirs... How will impact their effort to take good care of it?
It's an error to equate taxation as stealing. Check a dictionary.
--Hiram
You are technically correct. Anything is lawful as long as the ruling government makes it "legal".
Just like slavery was lawful, the killing of Jews was lawful, apartheid was lawful, abortion is lawful, deduction of carried interest is lawful, etc.
Now whether these legal activities were/are right or wrong is a different discussion. As is what consequences they had or have on the socieities in which they are present. Usually we can't determine that until time has passed.
Am I untechnically incorrect? Is there something technical about what stealing is? Didn't it exist before the invention of the transistor?
==Hiram
All kinds of theft and stealing... I especially like Comic 9...
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And yet Liberals seem to have no problem with it...
Sorry for no new post. I am hunting those elusive white deer.
Oops. White tailed deer.
Went one for two.
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