Eric is right on track here. MP What Trump Should Say But the commenters seem to have derailed. It seems that Liberal commenters become unglued when the see Trump's name.
"What upsets me most about the entire Trump situation isn't even what he does or what he says (although I find all of those upsetting).
What upsets me most about the entire Trump situation is that there is a sizable enough part of our American population that finds him acceptable that they have voted him into the position he currently enjoys.
I only hope that my faith in my fellow Americans as a whole will be restored by his resounding defeat in the November general election." Pat
"Now it's us: Too many Americans who know that Trump creates acid stomach for them are still going to vote for him. No matter what it may mean for the country or for the world. That's our failing, collectively. Beginning with all those high-level Republican elected officials who won't renounce him despite being appalled by what he says and does.By the way, Trump finally found a person who will not talk back to him. Trump Kicks Baby Out One really can not make this stuff up...
Surely there's an educated and thoughtful electorate in this country who can outvote the angry bigots who support Trump." Constance
"First, I agree with Eric on this one.
Second, I will never understand the MP moderation policy. I know committed Trump Voters and they are not angry bigots. Such name calling adjectives... :-)
Third, most of the Trump voters I have met are like the Bernie voters. They feel strongly that the political system has failed the country and they want to see the whole thing shook up.
And though I really dislike their champion... I certainly agree with them. In almost every other aspect of our lives we get more for less as technology takes hold. However the cost of government as a percent of our economy just keeps going up.
Past Spending" G2A
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When liberals start shooting watermelons in the backyard to prove conspiracy theories, then you can talk about "becoming unglued".
This was an interesting read.
And Sean how would you simulate shooting someone in the head... I thought it was creative. And yes I recognize that there are extremists on the Left and Right.
Since this one likely will get bounced by the MP moderator...
"Slight correction: "Too many Americans who know that Trump creates acid stomach for other Americans . . ." A big part of Trump's appeal to his partisans is that he gets under the skin of "them." He infuriates feminists, people of color, non-Christians, environmentalists, etc. Trump voters don't care about policy, they just want to start and watch a fight.
"Surely there's an educated and thoughtful electorate in this country who can outvote the angry bigots who support Trump." I certainly hope so." RB
""Trump voters don't care about policy"
Of course they care about policy. Their opinions just differ from yours.
And as for infuriating the folks in those groups, it is not too challenging. If one is against reverse discrimination, for secure borders, for deporting illegal residents, for protecting the lives of pre-babies, against making people violate their religious beliefs, want to push the Public sector to become more effective and accountable, etc... They probably won't like you.
So what does the reverse look like? People who favor reverse discrimination, unsecure borders, harboring illegal residents, ending the lives of pre-babies, making people violate their religious beliefs and are okay with ineffective and wasteful government...
Yep that sounds about right..." G2A
Republicans nominate dangerously insane person to lead America, then panic when he proves he’s dangerously insane
Donald Trump makes his most dangerous comments yet
The Republican Party has lost its soul
It’s friend against friend in the Republican civil war
Trump’s shallowness runs deep
Stop Indulging Trump
Finally the GOP nominates a candidate who won't run whimpering to his corner when the vicious personal attacks, lies and smears start, and the liberals go nuts and redouble their efforts, because their old playbook doesn't seem to work. And too many in the GOP still choose to buckle under rather than stand up for what is good and sensible.
I think the Democrats have got to be absolutely LOVING this discord. What better could Conservatives give them?
CNN GOP Civil War
CNN Trump Stays on Message: Briefly
I think democrats are distrbed that 40% of the country would vote for Trump and very concerned that he has a 25% chance of winning. Being unable to see what an extremely bad and dangerous candidate he is is another huge blind spot for you.
Trump asks why US can't use nukes: MSNBC
"And Sean how would you simulate shooting someone in the head... "
The issue isn't whether he used a watermelon versus a cantaloupe. It's that a guy who didn't finish bible college thinks he's some sort of amateur CSI expert who can prove something contrary to the experts. That takes a unique kind of delusion from an elected official.
If a citizen thinks that the experts have been bought off to cover up a crime by an elected official, what would you have the citizen do?
By the way, per your source he apparently had a real policeman with him while running the test.
Laurie,
Your ilk regularly vote for...
"People who favor reverse discrimination, unsecure borders, harboring illegal residents, ending the lives of pre-babies, making people violate their religious beliefs and are okay with ineffective and wasteful government..."
I am not sure I would be throwing any stones. Apparently 51 million little hearts have been stopped and counting.
"If a citizen thinks that the experts have been bought off to cover up a crime by an elected official, what would you have the citizen do?"
I wouldn't engage in cockamamie science experiments in my backyard.
I don't think people I vote for favor any of the things you listed and I don't have any ilk. This year the Bernie or bust people have made me like the far left even less than usual.
It seems Trump is having a better day. I had to search for a few minutes for this anti Trump article
DONALD TRUMP'S MANY BUSINESS FAILURES, EXPLAINED
Laurie,
We all have "Ilk: family, class, or kind"... Sometimes we just don't want to claim them.
Maybe that is what Trump is to the GOP... That crazy Cousin Trump who embarrasses the family on a regular basis.
Remember Cousin Eddie... He ended up being the hero...
"I think the Democrats have got to be absolutely LOVING this discord"
Of course they do. They are the ones creating it. Essentially out of whole cloth.
Take for example this "refused to endorse Ryan" nonsense. What Trump said was "I'm not there yet." Quite similar to what Ryan said about endorsing Trump-- "I'm not there yet." Then he sat down with Trump and they talked policy. Out of this CNN makes up this blood feud. Nonsense, but typical.
Sorry, but I can think of no reason that Trump would of have delayed endorsing Ryan. They had talked and apparently reached an accord.
It is exactly these petty grudges and how Trump handles them that has many people like me concerned. If his skin is so thin in these cases, how will he react to substantial insults?
Someone close to me reminds me of Trump.
1. Their opinion is always the one that is right.
2. If anything goes wrong, it is someone else's fault.
3. If you think they are responsible for the failure, see rule 1.
I opt to visit once in awhile, but I can not work with them for any duration...
Donald Trump Is Liberating the GOP From Its Most Deeply Held Beliefs
maybe you should oppose Trump because he doesn't care about the deficit and wants to spend twice as much as Hillary on infrastructure. The article does start with the clause "Donald Trump is a lunatic" so you really cannot escape these conclusions, even from conservative writers.
All I had to see was "Slate". That said it all...
you shouldn't be so closed minded about what sources you consider acceptable. Have you never heard of Reihan Salam He is the executive editor of National Review.
I suppose you think Wapo is too liberal as well. Here is anther opinion piece written by another leading conservative writer. Have you heard of Charles Krauthammer? This is from today's column:
"This is beyond narcissism. I used to think Trump was an 11-year-old, an undeveloped schoolyard bully. I was off by about 10 years. His needs are more primitive, an infantile hunger for approval and praise, a craving that can never be satisfied. He lives in a cocoon of solipsism where the world outside himself has value — indeed exists — only insofar as it sustains and inflates him."
Donald Trump and the fitness threshold
More from Wapo:
Trump will leave a lasting stain on Republicans
"I realize that puts you (republican leaders) in a tough spot politically. Breaking with the party’s standard-bearer, chosen by voters in primaries and caucuses, would surely mean short-term pain. For some of you, it could be politically fatal. But sticking with Trump, as far as I can see, will almost surely be worse — for you, for the party and, potentially, heaven forbid, for the country you have sworn to serve.
You’re taking a position that is indefensible on both philosophical and real-world grounds: begging Trump to pretend to be sane and competent until Election Day."
What is really motivating the runaway train of Donald Trump?
"Trump, however, is not the only one being tested. We have seen that Trump is a sadist; now we determine whether Republicans are masochists. On the current course, Reince Priebus will be judged the worst GOP party chairman in history. On the current course, Ryan will be discredited as a political and moral leader. On the current course, our children will look back in confusion and contempt, asking: How did you allow such a man to get so close to such an office?"
Why facts don’t matter to Trump’s supporters
"How did Donald Trump win the Republican nomination, despite clear evidence that he had misrepresented or falsified key issues throughout the campaign? Social scientists have some intriguing explanations for why people persist in misjudgments despite strong contrary evidence.
Trump is a vivid and, to his critics, a frightening present-day illustration of this perception problem. But it has been studied carefully by researchers for more than 30 years. Basically, the studies show that attempts to refute false information often backfire and lead people to hold on to their misperceptions even more strongly."
The unbearable stench of Trump’s B.S.
"The B.S. artist, however, has lost all connection with reality. He pays no attention to the truth. “By virtue of this,” Frankfurt writes, “bullshit is a greater enemy of truth than lies are.”
We see the consequences. As the crazy talk continues, standard rules of fact, truth and reality have disappeared in this campaign. Donald Trump has piled such vast quantities of his trademark product (BS) into the political arena that the stench is now overwhelming and unbearable."
I found the last link the most interesting
It is just absolutely amazing how so many have completely and "accurately" psychoanalyzed Mr. Trump in just a few short weeks, yet completely missed the crassly ideological, narcissistic, know-nothing megalomaniac that's been in the White House for 8 years.
Has it occurred to anybody that those making those pronouncements are NOT trying to help the country, but rather just padding their own prideful place by joining the current media-driven pig pile?
Jerry,
I agree that many of these reporters and talking heads are self serving leaches. I read them and just consider them a data point/ perspective.
My concerns are based on reading / viewing Trump directly...
He seems petty, self absorbed and easily distracted. I may like some of his views, but it is really hard seeing him accomplish anything in government given his personality and behaviors.
"It is just absolutely amazing how so many have completely and "accurately" psychoanalyzed Mr. Trump in just a few short weeks, yet completely missed the crassly ideological, narcissistic, know-nothing megalomaniac that's been in the White House for 8 years."
Has it occurred to you that you're completely delusional and wrong? I mean, that's what you accuse us progressives of; perhaps check for the plank in your own eye.
Joel
Joel, if I believed I was completely wrong I wouldn't say what I say. I generally reach my conclusions after I have seen that BOTH sides of the debate confirm my initially (admittedly biased) opinion. That is, if I can tell that one side is lying through their teeth and the other side has a plausible explanation with a ring of truth, I side with that "other." And baseless assertions to the contrary are not persuasive.
John, I have to admit you have the better case. That you dismiss the crazed caricatures painted of him in the press is a great thing, and I wish more people (including too many Republicans) would do likewise. But I have to admit that your impression of him isn't wrong on a superficial level. I don't buy it only because I know people like him, find them generally affable and competent. And if I am wrong, I will hold my nose with both hands if necessary, and vote with my toes against Hillary.
He seems to be having a good time, have you noticed? Have you ever seen Hillary without a scowl or a smirk? I have a feeling that if the election came down to an /honest/ contest based on "cares about people like me," Trump would win in a landslide.
" I have a feeling that if the election came down to an /honest/ contest based on "cares about people like me," Trump would win in a landslide."
The latest NBC/WSJ poll on that very question has Clinton leading Trump by 16 points.
I did emphasize /honest/, as in without the heavy thumb of the media narrative on the scales.
Jerry,
Okay. I'll bite. Why do you believe this of Obama?
"crassly ideological, narcissistic, know-nothing megalomaniac"
I do agree he is narcissistic, not quite as bad as Trump but close.
Otherwise he has seemed to do an okay job, though I am happy the GOP House was there to stop more of his ideas.
From the NYT:
I Ran the C.I.A. Now I’m Endorsing Hillary Clinton.
"Two strongly held beliefs have brought me to this decision. First, Mrs. Clinton is highly qualified to be commander in chief. I trust she will deliver on the most important duty of a president — keeping our nation safe. Second, Donald J. Trump is not only unqualified for the job, but he may well pose a threat to our national security."
Trump, the Bad, Bad Businessman
"Amid all the self-made myths about Donald Trump, none is more fantastic than Trump the moneymaker, the New York tycoon who has enjoyed a remarkably successful business career. In reality, Mr. Trump was a walking disaster as a businessman for much of his life. This is not just my opinion. Warren Buffett said as much this past week."
I did a bit of searching for a journalist for a major publication that has something good to say about Trump but so far have been unable to find anything. Even the National review writers dislike Trump
OK, given that he is narcissistic...
"crassly ideological": appoints Kagan and Sotomayor to SCOTUS, closes National Parks unnecessarily to blame Republicans for the shutdown, blames Republicans for everything, sends the IRS after conservative groups, sends the DOJ after police departments, arbitrarily changes the law to avoid the appearance of Obamacare failure, says "you didn't build that," calls those who disagree "bitter clingers" and worse, everything he does is "the right thing to do," meets with Rev. Wright, BLM, Sharpton, Dorn, but tells Republicans "I won," ...
"know-nothing": thinks ISIS is the "JV team," thinks "Islamic State" has nothing to do with Islam, refuses to say "radical Islamic terror," says "the police acted stupidly" in Cambridge, long before the facts are in, likewise with Ferguson and etc., thinks gun control prevents terrorism, says Climate Change is the greatest threat, thinks man-made climate change exists, ...
"megalomaniac": "now is the time when the oceans will cease their rise...," "I've got a phone and a pen," "It's who we are" or "It's not who we are" (he's right, it's just him), White House parties and junkets to make Nero blush, thinks the EPA can control the climate, and (have you noticed?) he seems to believe that his saying something makes it so.
That's a beautiful list of right-wing distortions of President Obama, jerry. Well-done.
Joel
Distortions? Most of the words came out of the man's own mouth. If you can find a way to spin that and use other terms, feel free. Otherwise, my characterizations stand on the merits.
Syria
Cherrypicked quote
Islamism is not Islam
That's all I have time for.
Joel
I'm still waiting for evidence that Obama has a clue. Syria wasn't caused by manmade climate change, because there is no such thing. If the climate changed in Syria at all, it was natural and made life difficult because the country lacked economic development and personal freedom under the dictator Assad. And violence is caused by violent people, period.
It may be a cherrypicked quote (just barely) but he said it, it was the general theme of his remarks, he never retracted it, and it is quite obvious it reflects his real ideology. I had forgotten about it, too, so thanks for adding one more proof.
And he can say Islamism is not Islam all he wants, but it makes less sense every time he says it. Now if he wanted to make a distinction, all he has to do is say RADICAL Islamic terrorism, which he has never done. In fact, he makes a concerted effort to blame every radical islamic terrorist attack on everything BUT. There's tolerant, and then there is "know-nothing," whether willful ignorance or just blind stupidity is at work.
"It may be a cherrypicked quote (just barely) but he said it, it was the general theme of his remarks, he never retracted it, and it is quite obvious it reflects his real ideology. I had forgotten about it, too, so thanks for adding one more proof."
But it does not say what you think and claim it says.
Joel
Really? What DOES it say, pray tell?
We've been over and over this.
Do you really think someone builds a business in this country without the benefit of the protection of the military, without the investment in infrastructure that the entire nation has paid for, without an educated workforce, without customers with the resources to buy the product?
No man is an island, and Conservatives like you will never understand that we're all in this together.
Joel
"And he can say Islamism is not Islam all he wants, but it makes less sense every time he says it. Now if he wanted to make a distinction, all he has to do is say RADICAL Islamic terrorism, which he has never done. In fact, he makes a concerted effort to blame every radical islamic terrorist attack on everything BUT. There's tolerant, and then there is "know-nothing," whether willful ignorance or just blind stupidity is at work."
Because it's not Islamic. It's not based off the Religion's true teachings.
Perhaps we can try categorizing all acts of violence by those who claim to be Christian as representative of Christianity. If I murder someone in cold blood in the name of Christ is it Christianity that's the problem? If the KKK, a self-proclaimed Christian organization, foments hatred and violence against Americans, are they representative of Christianity? Is it the Christian religion that requires them to do such things?
It would be better if there was no such thing as Religion so that we could call these things what they are: Terrorism.
Joel
Do you really think that this country builds a business without some individual making the effort to start and operate that business, pay the taxes to support the military and the roads and the schools, and still return a profit to pay the investors? Liberals like you will never understand that "we're all in this together" but it is supposed to be a VOLUNTARY association for our mutual benefit, not a case of one group leeching off the other by force of government. It's called the "common good," not the "special interest two-step."
Joel, you almost have a point. But when the KKK burns a cross, they are usually promptly renounced by other Christians. Not so with Islamic terrorists. Other "Christian" terrorists are quickly labelled extremists or radicals in the American press, at least, even if the Christian factor is somewhat incidental-- crimes against gays, for example, are often characterized as perpetrated by religious extremists, UNLESS the perpetrators are Muslim!
Just because someone interprets their religion or holy writs differently does NOT mean they did not do the deed in the name of the religion, because THEY are the ones, in these cases, TELLING us in no uncertain terms that is why they are doing it. We're never going to stop such fanatical people until we face up to and convince everybody that they ARE perverting their religion and that must either come from their co-religionists, or we have to kill them. The first is not something we can do unless we point out who they are, and the other we cannot do unless we name the enemy. I mean, really, how long does Obama think he can deny reality on this?
"Not so with Islamic terrorists."
You're not paying attention.
Joel
"We're never going to stop such fanatical people until we face up to and convince everybody that they ARE perverting their religion..."
You keep saying this...that it's not the religion that's the problem...and in the next breath you say we should label it as Islam, when it is clearly "Perverted Islam", which you have correctly pointed out.
But maybe I do understand your point. After all, promoting and passing laws that seek to abridge and deny the rights of LGBT people is a perversion of Christianity yet you still claim to be Christian and do it in the name of your Christ, and we still call such perverts Christian in this country.
Joel
Do you really think that this country builds a business without some individual making the effort to start and operate that business, pay the taxes to support the military and the roads and the schools, and still return a profit to pay the investors?
Very well. Put that person alone on a desert island with no way to communicate with the outside world. Do they still build that business?
Did Donald Trump make his first million from his own hard work or did his daddy do it for him?
You don't get it and you never will, because you believe that you, and others like you, are self-made men, all the while reaping the benefits of what others have done and paid for.
Joel
Put that society on a desert island with no entrepreneur and see if that business gets built. How many doctors would we have if individual people did not make the dedicated effort (and freedom) to become doctors? You can create the finest medical schools in the world through private investment and society's support, plus charging individuals to attend. You CANNOT do it by government fiat and without individuals willing to participate.
OK, it is "perverted Islam," but your saying it doesn't make it so. If these radical terrorists are abusing Islam, it is up to the majority of Muslims to say so. And whether you or I say it doesn't get us to a national solution so long as our Fearless Leader simply refuses to call it what it is. In fact, if he DID call it "Islamic terrorism" (incorrectly, we agree), he might prompt those who believe Islam is not all terrorists might speak up and defend their religion against the radicals-- a good start. Obama's continued aversion to the phrase is an active denial of reality.
"You're not paying attention."
Evidence, please, that terrorists are routinely and publicly renounced by other Muslims. Seems to me the Koran offers them a basis for their actions.
"...deny the rights of LGBT people is a perversion of Christianity..."
Says you. You will have to tell me WHAT right is being denied. If it is the right to life I would agree with you, and remind you that Islam in general takes a much more stringent view than any American Christian does.
"Evidence, please, that terrorists are routinely and publicly renounced by other Muslims."
I'm sure you'll find a reason this doesn't count
"If it is the right to life I would agree with you, and remind you that Islam in general takes a much more stringent view than any American Christian does."
That may be the case, but we live in America, where Islam does not hold sway. America is a Christian nation, if Republicans and Conservatives are to be believed. And yet...violence against gay people has been quite commonplace. So, we'll just place those deaths at the foot of the cross and see what Christ has to say about his followers, eh? You turn a blind eye to Christian perpetrators of violence, but decry Muslim perpetrators of violence.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness;"
LGBT people have and are being denied Life.
LGBT people have and are being denied Liberty.
LGBT people have and are being denied the Pursuit of Happiness.
And it is, by and large, the Christians of this country who are the perpetrators.
You will deny it. You will rationalize it. And I don't care how right you think you are. The reality is that your ideology causes death. Thankfully, the broader culture is finally waking up its falseness.
Joel
The Victims
Joel
"...routinely and publicly renounced by other Muslims."
You are correct. What you describe is one tiny, local, albeit public example. It is news precisely because it is not "routine." Maybe if our President would renounce Islamic terrorists as radical Islamists it would carry some weight?
That is a sad list of victims, Joel. I admit I only scanned it, but I did not see that in a majority of cases it was done by perpetrators shouting "Jesus hates fags" or some such, like the acts preceded by "Allahu Akbar." It seems that our secular society may produce people who hate gays for reasons other than religious, and act on that hatred. They didn't learn it in the Christian church, I'm sure (Westboro Baptist being the oddball, and even they don't promote violence). I'm thinking your attempt at moral equivalence isn't that good, and doesn't address the subject at hand which is that our President refuses to acknowledge the reality of radical Islamic terrorism. He also refuses to acknowledge the reality of the terrible carnage of blacks killing blacks while complaining loudly about "racism" in the insignificant number of blacks killed in confrontations with police.
Am I supposed to feel better about Christians murdering LGBT folks because they only feel it in their heart instead of shouting it out loud?
Despicable.
Joel
Oh...and thank you for denying it and rationalizing it.
As I knew you would.
Joel
Coming back to the original question, you are doing to Christians what the press is doing to Trump-- trumping up phony charges and imputing horrible motivations without one iota of real, factual evidence.
It seems like the biggest objections to Trump are that he doesn't do political correctness and "tells it like it is." Liberals hate that.
"It seems like the biggest objections to Trump are that he doesn't do political correctness and "tells it like it is." Liberals hate that."
He sure does. Except when his minions say he doesn't, like when he recently suggested that Clinton could be assassinated. He didn't mean what he said then, apparently.
Joel
"...you are doing to Christians what the press is doing to Trump-- trumping up phony charges and imputing horrible motivations without one iota of real, factual evidence."
Exhibit A
Real, factual evidence that those in the Christian Church who should want the exact opposite are fighting for the right to torture and abuse gay people.
Joel
"like when he recently suggested that Clinton could be assassinated."
Yes, exactly like that. There is absolutely zero factual evidence that he said anything of the sort, and his intentions in saying what he said are entirely unknowable. The liberal media simply make up this "scandal" out of whole cloth and a whole lot of people believe it. Shameful.
So, you believe that those who WANT conversion therapy should be denied it? Who is torturing whom? What happened to health care as a right?
"There is absolutely zero factual evidence that he said anything of the sort, and his intentions in saying what he said are entirely unknowable."
The problem is that the Trump explanation of what he meant (and how many more times are we going to have go through the "no, no, no, what he actually meant was..." discussion between now and Election Day?) made no sense, and people called him on that, too. And we've seen Trump call for violence from the podium on several other occasions during this campaign. So, no, it's not a big leap. And it could have quickly and easily been cleared up, but Trump and his campaign refused (yet again) to do so.
"So, you believe that those who WANT conversion therapy should be denied it? Who is torturing whom? What happened to health care as a right?"
If someone wanted to drink drain cleaner to cure their cancer, and they went to a "healer" who gave them the drain cleaner to drink, would that also be okay?
Joel
Sean, you have something of a point, that Trump tends to defend what he said rather than ever offering an apology. But that is as it should be, I think, because what he is reported to have said is almost never what he actually said. Not only that, but the "headlines" almost always jump from what he never really said, to what he never really meant, to what a terrible person he is for saying what he never said. At what point do we get to complain about media bias?
I don't know. Is assisted suicide still a good liberal idea? Was it OK when the psychiatric profession declared that being gay was "OK"? Why is it now wrong for psychiatry to treat those who decide they are not? Why do you want government to interfere in individual health care decisions?
"Why is it now wrong for psychiatry to treat those who decide they are not?"
Are priest and ministers trained and certified in Psychiatry?
Joel
Are politicians trained economists? Why do you get to decide who is qualified and who is not, when it is someone else making the choice and accepting the result?
And what does this discussion have to do with the rampant media bias against Mr. Trump?
"And what does this discussion have to do with the rampant media bias against Mr. Trump?"
You're a Trump supporter and you have all of these other dangerous ideas and believe in a grand media conspiracy against your candidate. If you're representative of the type of person that is voting for Trump, then I'll happily cast my vote for Hillary, knowing that I'm helping to save the country from such nonsense.
Joel
I would offer examples of this rampant media bias but they are too rampant and, in many cases, too outrageous to repeat. It doesn't have to be a conspiracy, it's just who they are. 95% of them (actual statistic, look it up) are liberal Democrats. They couldn't do objective reporting-- honestly comparing policies or even temperaments between the two-- if you handed them a crib sheet.
Oh, and I'll be happy to be representative of the 40% of Americans voting for Trump. Pretty certain we're not all dangerously deluded.
"...it's just who they are."
Trump just is who he is. Some of us see right through it; others don't.
Joel
Donald Trump gave an economic speech one week ago today. Then, on Tuesday, he started a three-day kick on asserting that President Obama was the "founder of ISIS", which ended -- after multiple interviews in which he claimed that he was being quite serious and refusing opportunities to walk it back to a more reasonable position of saying that the president's policies had enabled ISIS -- with him claiming that he was just being "sarcastic".
The problem with Donald Trump's campaign in Donald Trump.
Sean, you are half right. Part of the problem is that Donald Trump says whatever comes into his mind. The other half is that the media will twist and amplify anything they can, in order to destroy his candidacy. The bias is so obvious I keep hoping it will backfire on them. It needs to happen, for the good of the country.
Dude, it ain't the media spinning it. Here's what Trump himself said on Hugh Hewitt last week:
"HH: I’ve got two more questions. Last night, you said the President was the founder of ISIS. I know what you meant. You meant that he created the vacuum, he lost the peace.
DT: No, I meant he’s the founder of ISIS. I do. He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton.
HH: But he’s not sympathetic to them. He hates them. He’s trying to kill them.
DT: I don’t care. He was the founder."
Hewitt is trying to drag him away from his comments, and Trump won't let it go. It's not the media's fault if Trump says something over and over and over again. When you build your campaign on the foundation of earning free media, you better be careful what you say.
Sean,
Agreed.
I will agree as well. But Trump built his "free media" empire by saying things that outraged the media, and that were "politically incorrect." The media covered him only to help him get the nomination. Once he did, their playbook says to redouble their efforts to destroy him. If I believed everything the media says about Trump, I wouldn't vote for him either, but I don't. Trump still gets credit for the right ideas and for aggravating the media, but if he quit phrasing things so badly he wouldn't get media coverage at all. Notice what happens when he actually says something well and on point? Crickets.
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