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I have lots of thoughts. A few:
I believe it is entirely possible that they are both being 100% truthful about remembering the event.
It became clearer as the afternoon wore on the at Kavanaugh had(has?) a drinking problem, and was covering it up.
The July 1 entry of his calendar, discussed VERY briefly, matches up quite well with the description of the party that Ford was at.
Mark Judge being absent from the hearings is a HUGE deal.
Questioning her memory of the event, but trusting his memory of a drunken summer is stupid.
Guilty or not, he's not fit for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court.
Moose
I'm surprised that Putin didn't pick a better nominee than this goon.
I am so tired of this silliness that I am avoiding any news that has to do with it.
I am more interested in why the DEMs are still supporting Ellison for recent "adult" behavior questions while seeking to crucify Kavanaugh for things that may have happened ~36 years ago when he was young and stupid.
ST E vs K
FOX News K vs E
Not all Dems are supporting Ellison. There's a real difference between Ellison and Kavanaugh, though. Ellison is standing for election in November, and voters can have their say. Kavanaugh is up for a position that he will keep for as long as he likes, and he hasn't faced any complete investigation of these accusations. It doesn't matter that he was 17. If he did this, he should not be on SCOTUS.
(And let's not forget Kavanaugh has racked up a long, long list of things he probably lied about that aren't sexual assault in his hearings and his partisanship yesterday shows he is not impartial.)
On a lighter more societal norms note...
That was Then?
I think appointing someone to a lifetime position on the supreme court as more of a serious rather than silly matter.
The question for me...
How does what Kavanaugh and the partiers of his schools impact his qualification as a Justice?
Does his 16 Candles moments in help or hurt his capabilities?
He was and is human, isn't that what we want?
he is a liar and too partisan to be a supreme court justice.
I am more interested in why the DEMs are still supporting Ellison for recent "adult" behavior questions while seeking to crucify Kavanaugh for things that may have happened ~36 years ago when he was young and stupid
One reason is that Wardlow is so awful. A big difference is that Kavanaugh has been nominated to lifetime job which is one of the most powerful in America, indeed in the world. And it's a job which he isn't elected to. Indeed, Kavanaugh is someone who has never run for office in his life. One the other hand, Ellison has run for office many times, and is running for office now. If people don't like him, they can do what they will never be able to do with Kavananaugh, they can vote for someone else.
--Hiram
If Kavanaugh is lying currently, then I agree he should not be a justice. I wonder what the FBI will learn...
I find it hard to believe that Ellison will win a state wide race, especially with those allegations still univestigated.
I am so excited for the post election results !!!
Kavanaugh has told many lies in addition to the big one. I could find you a link about this but it would be a waste of my time.
Yes it would be since I am not a Senator... :-)
However this is interesting.
And since I did drink too much when I was young and did lose my memories of more than a few late evenings... I find it hard to believe that Kavanaugh never did...
If challenged by someone about what happened on a few of those nights... I would just have to say sorry... I was an idiot back then...
I had a friend who lost his memory more often than myself...
I still remember this sad and yet humorous exchange...
"Hey man, where is my car?"
"How should I know?"
"You borrowed it from me last night..."
"Oh I did???"
Fortunately Brookings SD was a relatively small town and we found my car parked near the house party he had wisely walked home from...
if you were a senator would you vote for him?
I don’t know enough to say either way. I have not interviewed him.
And I sure don’t trust all the press coverage on a topic so important and complicated.
Tribe Liberal and Tribe Conservative are at their manipulative self serving best right now.
your non-answer to a simple question is very predictable. It seems highly likely to me that you would vote to confirm, but won't admit this as you like to imagine yourself as an independent. Your comment complaining about the press coverage is stupid as well, as there has been tons of high quality coverage of the confirmation hearings. What question do you need a response to that has not been asked in order to decide?
I would hope to learn... What actually happened 36+ years ago?
We have 2 stories and no corroborating evidence.
Why again would I be in a hurry to vote for a conservative Justice?
Did you forget that I am for the most part a social liberal.
And that I like balance in politics and the court...
There is some evidence. Ford passed a lie detector test and told others of this attack many years ago. Why won't you say that you would vote note on Kavenaugh confirmation, he is not entitled to this lifetime position?
I don’t know much or anything about him...
How could I say if I would vote for or against him.
Please remember that for the most part I am a man without a tribe. I would actually have to study the details to formulate a position... Not just agree with Kevin Drum or Rush Limbaugh... Like some folks I may know. :-)
As for true evidence... I would say it is pretty weak at this time.
Pretty much a he said / she said at this time.
And is it true that she does know where, when, etc?
I watched several hours of the hearing and read Wapo and NYT every day. Why are you proud of being ignorant on this important confirmation issue?
If we want to protect the Supreme Court’s legitimacy, Kavanaugh should not be on it
(fyi Jennifer Rubin is a moderate conservative)
Kavanaugh's angry testimony may save his nomination, but undercut his claims of being an impartial jurist
Why would I spend any of my valuable time watching that circus?
We have Tribe Conservative trying to make him a justice no matter what...
We have Tribe Liberal with holding the Ford story until it could cause the most chaos, and then throwing her to the wolves hoping that it would help them in the mid terms...
Please remember my favorite prayer...
"God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference."
Just curious, how much stress / anxiety did you experience watching that soap opera?
Did it give you positive energy or drain you?
Did it help your serenity?
What else could you be doing that would make a difference in this world of ours?
Or that would re-energize you?
Almost every evening I do work for school, with cable news on as background noise. I don't find cable news draining, watching in this manner. The sitcoms and dramas don't interest me much and I am too focused on other stuff to really watch them.
Thankfully I don't have cable or dish...
All I get are PBS and national news...
"We have Tribe Liberal with holding the Ford story until it could cause the most chaos, and then throwing her to the wolves hoping that it would help them in the mid terms..."
That isn't what happened.
I disagree.
Here is the FOX perspective.
Yeah, the GOP perspective on this is an evidence-free claim that Democratic Senators leaked this, when in fact the evidence supports the fact that Feinstein was trying to keep Ford's identity secret until she was comfortable coming forward.
She easily could have reported the incident / concern without sharing the name... Instead she kept the whole accusation secret until it was most useful.
She played her card well.
Who is "she" in this case? Feinstein?
The Intercept reporter who first published the story said he didn't get Ford's name from Feinstein or her staffers.
So which Democrat was it?
The Congress woman or Ford herself?
How am I supposed to know?
My point is... It was not a GOPer playing this particular game.
Just curious... In your world view where GOP politicians are Devils and DEM politicians are Angels... Do the Angelic Politicians always tell the truth?
Or are they like most human politicians?
I agree that it's probable this leak came from a Democratic member of Congress or a staff member. However, the reporter says they didn't get the information from Feinstein or her staff. That should be definitive.
It's also not clear that the timing of the leak is was designed to be "most useful" -- that's not something one can determine until we know who the leaker was. It appears that Feinstein was able to keep the lid on the existence of the letter through the end of August, at least. So it's very possible that the leaker didn't know about the letter until fairly recently.
Or... They waited until it could delay the vote and stir up midterm fervor... The Democratic dream right now is to delay the confirmation in hopes that they somehow take the Senate.
The big question is which voters are they stirring up more?
- The DEMs as desired
- The GOP who are tired of obstruction
I am so excited for the mid-term elections !!!
Clearly, it's more important WHEN the story came out than the fact that a woman was sexually assaulted.
"The Democratic dream right now is to delay the confirmation in hopes that they somehow take the Senate."
The "Democratic dream" is to keep a woefully unqualified judge from sitting on the Supreme Court.
Moose
"The Democratic dream right now is to delay the confirmation in hopes that they somehow take the Senate."
No, it's not. We're not under any illusions here. If Kavanaugh goes down and the GOP loses the Senate, McConnell will ram through the next pick in the lame duck session in December.
That is what is so stupid about GOP insistence on standing by Kavanaugh. Trump could have picked literally any other name from the list and likely gotten them through with little more than the usual partisan bickering. Instead, he picked the angry drunk guy who wanted to ask Bill Clinton about oral sex and then went on to be neck-deep in some of the worst excesses of the Bush administration.
Moose,
First... An allegedly assaulted woman...
Second... Then let's focus on his "lack of qualifications".
Sean,
Who do you like better?
I don't need to bother going through the list. Certainly there's got to be someone on there who hasn't been credibly accused of sexual assault and won't go into a hearing acting like an angry partisan.
"First... An allegedly assaulted woman..."
She very obviously knows she was sexually assaulted.
His conspiracy theory, which he enumerated in front of the Senate panel, is enough to disqualify him. He has demonstrated exactly zero impartiality.
Moose
You 2 must be much calmer folks then me.
If I was up for my dream job, I had been through ~6 back ground checks and the DEMs drop this unsubstantiated bombshell on the proceedings in front of everyone and my family... I would be angry and indignant also.
I think to not be would be inhuman.
Do we really want an inhuman Justice?
"Do we really want an inhuman Justice?"
Lindsey Graham made a big deal about Sonia Sotomayor's supposed temper during her hearing. She was also criticized for having "empathy" and suggesting that she was a "wise Latina"
Funny how the standards change when it's a white guy...
All the more reason that his demeanor disqualifies him. Who wants that kind of instability in a Supreme Court justice? I mean...if the facts are on your side, you should be the model of serenity and welcome the deepest of FBI investigations.
Moose
I once had an employee and her supervisor come to me at separate times to apologize for her emotional out burst...
I had to ask both of them "What emotional outburst?"
They then explained that she had apparently becoming passionate against something I had proposed... (go figure...)
At which time I explained that I had hardly noticed, and that I appreciate when people stick up for what they believe... It is pointless to have a team where the people all agree and don't really care.
I don't like with all robots like myself... I like team members with different personalities...
As for facts...
I am not sure they matter in this case...
Tribe Liberal seems certain he is a sexual predator...
Tribe Conservative seems certain he is being attacked without cause...
All with few facts either way.
"Tribe Liberal seems certain he is a sexual predator..."
It is now irrelevant. He has lied under oath.
Moose
Which lie was that?
Is this your source?
In addition to lying under oath about his drinking and comments in his yearbook in the recent hearing, Kavenaugh lied in an earlier hearing as well.
Brett Kavanaugh misled the Senate under oath. I cannot support his nomination.
Let’s see what the FBI says. Not sure if I trust Leahy any more than Kavanaugh.
If Kanaugh lied,then on to the next conservative nominee. It will be interesting to see what the DEMs can dig up on that one.:-)
here is another article about the many lies of Kavenaugh that you can dismiss out of hand. I am starting to understand your ignorance on so many things as you reject 90% of news articles.
All The Lies Brett Kavanaugh Told
The Supreme Court nominee fibbed throughout his entire confirmation hearing. Republicans don’t seem to care.
Laurie,
If you keep linking to Liberal sources, it is hard to take it seriously. (ie Washington Post,
Huffington Post, etc)
When CNN, PBS, etc weigh in I will start to take the charges more seriously.
As for rejecting 90% of news articles...
I think I question 70% of news articles very closely. Those from the Left and Right News outlets.
And take the 30% in the middle more seriously, and yet I still analyze their perspective regarding the facts.
Why do you swallow articles from the Left hook line and sinker, and then ignore the others?
Finally, I am not dismissing any of these data points out of hand.
There is a distinct possibility that Kavanaugh misspoke or even lied during these many many hours of testifying. And I am sure Tribe Liberal is trying to find every possible instance.
I am going to simply have faith in our FBI and elected officials, not try to pretend I know "the truth". Because I certainly do not.
The Allsides news page is interesting since it has a Left, Center and Right column down a little ways. I may need to spend more time there.
This is a good summary of reality.
CNN Cautiously Optimistic
"I say "cautiously optimistic" because this investigation is not a deep dive into all of the recent serious allegations surrounding the judge's past. As with all subjects of FBI investigation, there remains a presumption of innocence absent some enlightening revelation. So long as the White House keeps the FBI on a tight leash and limited only to a very narrow focus, the findings are likely to only result in a he-said/she-said involving Ms. Ford's allegations of sexual assault. Absent hard evidence that corroborates these allegations, the Senate and the American people will have to judge for themselves who they believe.
That said, if new information does indeed come to light and the FBI's mandate is ultimately expanded, we will be dealing with an entirely different situation. Should the judge's history with alcohol or the truthfulness of his claims to the Senate become part of this review, his optimism will almost certainly begin to fade."
Well, how about this:
"Two reports last night — from NBC News and the New York Times — appear to contradict some of Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s testimony to Congress from last week.
On when Kavanaugh first learned about Deborah Ramirez’s allegations against him
HATCH: When did you first hear of Ms. Ramirez’s allegations against you?
KAVANAUGH: In the last — in the period since then, the New Yorker story [published on September 23].
But NBC’s Heidi Przbyla and Leigh Ann Caldwell write that Kavanaugh and his team were trying to refute Ramirez’s allegations BEFORE they became public. “The texts between Berchem and Karen Yarasavage, both friends of Kavanaugh, suggest that the nominee was personally talking with former classmates about Ramirez’s story in advance of the New Yorker article that made her allegation public. In one message, Yarasavage said Kavanaugh asked her to go on the record in his defense. Two other messages show communication between Kavanaugh's team and former classmates in advance of the story.”
More: “In a series of texts before the publication of the New Yorker story, Yarasavage wrote that she had been in contact with ‘Brett's guy,’ and also with ‘Brett,’ who wanted her to go on the record to refute Ramirez."
It then goes on to detail other areas where Kavanaugh may not have been completely honest.
NBC News: Kavanaugh's Testimony Starting to Look More Problematic
Yep. That sounds pretty bad for Kavanaugh... I think his optimism should be fading...
Atlantic: I Know Brett Kavanaugh, but I Wouldn't Confirm Him
That is an interesting piece. Thanks.
And Trump just makes the disaster worse...
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