Thursday, March 25, 2021

Death Rate Should Fall

Thankfully.  That is the stubborn anti-vaxxers relent and get their shots. 

"More than 43% of Americans 65 and older — the most vulnerable age group, accounting for an outsize share of the nation's more than 540,000 coronavirus deaths — have been fully vaccinated, according to the CDC. Vaccinations overall have ramped up to about 2.5 million shots per day.

Deaths per day in the U.S. from COVID-19 have dropped to an average of 940, down from an all-time high of over 3,400 in mid-January."

The good news is that at least the smart old and infirm folks can can now protect themselves against the stupid and selfish of the country.  

And if they are stupid, selfish, old and / or infirm, and choose to avoid getting vaccinated, the possible natural consequences may fine and leave our country better off. :-)   

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

There will always be people who reject safety measures. They will argue things like that they are an interference with freedom, or that they are more dangerous than what they are intended to prevent. or my personal favorite, "there are just too many unanswered questions".

Much as I dislike to psychologizing issues, I think this tendency is predictable and reflects underlying psychological issues, in this case what Freud might call a death wish. It's something many of us have, but with which we find a way to cope. We grumble, we complain about big government, we shake our fists and ask what George Washington would do, but at the end of the day we get the shot and wear the seatbelt. We don't move to compounds in Idaho, or storm the capitol.

--Hiram

John said...

I thought it was just.

"Its all about me..."

Like much in our society.

If I am young and healthy.

Or think COVID is an over blown Hoax.

Why would I make any sacrifices
to save the lives of other citizens?

I want to go to the bar for a beer.

Screw them. Everyone dies sometime.

John said...

Of course, often they find religion...

When they or someone close is put on a ventilator...

jerrye92002 said...

Two questions: 1. What would the death rate be without Covid? Looks like pretty normal actuarial stuff to me. 2. So why are we still forcing /everybody/ to wear those masks?

Anonymous said...

"1. What would the death rate be without Covid?"

The death rate for what? For instance, we've saved many thousands of lives that would have been lost to the flu due to our masking and social distancing mandates.

Moose

jerrye92002 said...

Moose, you surprise me with a not unreasonable question. I meant the overall death rate from all causes. I've seen evidence that the CV "signal" is undetectable.

Anonymous said...

What would the death rate be without Covid?

One to a person. I am not a believe in numbers or statistics in this area. They are just too "squishy". A friend of mine who tested positive for Covid died recently. He also had a very severe form of cancer which he had been battling for a while. He seemed to be doing well until covid hit. Did he die of cancer? Or Covid? In which statistical category should he fall? I simply don't know. It's a semantic issue, but I do know that people rarely die of semantics.

Looks like pretty normal actuarial stuff to me. 2. So why are we still forcing /everybody/ to wear those masks?

Depends on what you actuarially study? Were there a normal number of mobile morgues set up outside hospitals a year ago? What do the actuarial tables say?

So why are we still forcing /everybody/ to wear those masks?

What bothers me about this question is that it is an invitation to normalize the virus. Many people have the urge to treat pandemic issues the way we treat gun violence. We want people to accept death from disease in the same way we have persuaded people to accept being shot, as just a normal part of life in America. As a practical matter, I think we have really reached that stage, as memories of the events of a year ago fade.

--Hiram


Sean said...

I'll just leave this here.

Our World in Data: Excess mortality during the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19)

jerrye92002 said...

Thank you Sean. I stand corrected.

Hiram, Sean forcess me to take this more seriously than I have been. STILL less seriously than our Dictators do.

John said...

2 more excess mortality sources.

Source 1

Source 2