Thursday, February 9, 2017

Why Do We Have Trump?

Well in case you thought I was going Liberal on you... MP Trump Worrisome
"The problem is that we are facing a critical shortage of critical thinkers and that is why we have Donald J Trump as our President..." Edward

"Well now there is something I can disagree with... I think we have Trump because the alternative was even scarier... And I think that desire by the Liberals to drag the USA into being a democratic socialist state is because there are few "critical thinkers" on that side of the equation.

Punishing people who learn, work, stay married, save, invest, etc with much higher tax rates so that it can given to reward people who do not learn, work, stay married, save, invest, etc seems like the ultimate in "not critical thinking".

Every wise responsible critical thinking parent understands the simple fact that one must promote responsible behaviors if one wants their child to grow up into a mature responsible independent adult. Just bailing them out and giving them things when they behave poorly enables their continued failure." G2A

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

In terms of critical thinking, the issue with Trump is that while being extremely critical, he hardly ever thinks.

Seeing things from different points of view, is something I try to do. I certainly saw the case against Hillary Clinton. I don't think Democrats could have found a candidate more unsuited to the election environment of 2016. But as an elitist, it's hard for me to understand a vote for Trump without jettisoning my elitism, or the condescending attitudes I have come to treasure. We elitists always looked down on Trump. He was, in fact, a victim of elitist bullying. He didn't get invited to elitist parties; he wasn't treated respectfully by the elitist press. We saw him as a joke that Donald wasn't quite in on, and Donald knew and felt that. It didn't really occur to us that non elitists didn't see Trump that way, that in fact they took him seriously. To this day, I don't quite understand how that happened. Can anyone explain that? Is it perhaps the case that Trump's supporters feel sympathy for Trump, the target of bullying? Do they feel the lack of respect for Trump is translated as a lack of respect for themselves?

--Hiram

John said...

Hiram,
You know my view. The Democrats keep focusing on "government saving people / things they paint as victims". Be it the LGBT folks, the unsuccessful minorities, the environment, people who can not manage their money, irresponsible Baby Makers, Union workers, etc. They seem to have some idealist theoretical view of reality that makes them ignore everyone else that they hurt in their pursuit of "nirvana".

I mean that is why the Urban Elites like them and the more Independent Rational folks who end paying the cost dislike them.

Of course the good thing for the Democrats is that the GOP has it flaws also.

Anonymous said...

You know my view. The Democrats keep focusing on "government saving people / things they paint as victims".

I thought we focused on health care. And really am I wrong in thinking that the whole point of Trumpism is a focus on victimization? Does it really have any substance at all besides that?

--Hiram

John said...

No. Yes.

jerrye92002 said...

Speaking of critical thinking, do you believe that these nutball protestors are swaying any of that "critical thinking" to their point of view, or perhaps the opposite? I mean, Democrats object to Betsy DeVos because she has "never been in a public school" (not true, of course) and then try to assault her and block her from visiting a public school?

Anonymous said...

Speaking of critical thinking, do you believe that these nutball protestors are swaying any of that "critical thinking" to their point of view, or perhaps the opposite?

No, not really. They are preaching to the converted. In our polarized media environment, people just don't hear differing points of view. And where Trump is concerned, so many people are so deeply invested in him that it's difficult to back off from that position.

It's pretty easy to object to Devos. She doesn't seem to be in favor of public schools, and doesn't know much about education. Her appointment is clearly a political payoff. I don't think allowing her in the school was a good idea. If I were Randi Weingarten, I would have made a point of being there, and showing her around.

--Hiram

jerrye92002 said...

Seems to me that there is more evidence of a lack of critical thinking in this one event. Really, people, are you really going to try to defend what too many public schools have become? Oh, the idea is great, but the reality is appallingly bad. Maybe if Ms. DeVos just criticizes them enough, from her "know nothing" perch, they will get angry enough to try to prove her wrong.

Anonymous said...

Teachers tend to be assertive individuals. It's their job to control classrooms of kids who could easily overwhelm them if only they could get their act together. The problem Ms. DeVos is going to have on a day to day basis really is that she has no experience in dealing with teachers, and she will find them extremely difficult to handle. But it doesn't really matter much because Ms. DeVos was hired as a figurehead. The important decisions about the Department of Education will be made elsewhere.

--Hiram

jerrye92002 said...

If Ms. DeVos is a figurehead, then she strides the bow of a powerful warship, and it is headed in the right direction. Into the wind, certainly, but the one thing I like about the federal DOE is that it is powerful enough to lock horns with the teachers unions and hopefully win. Scott Walker did, with good results.