Monday, April 30, 2018

The Social Contract

The MP Birth Control comments took an interesting twist in the area of of the social contract... I have only copied a few of the comments. Social Contract Quotes
"Constitutionally, it is very simple. Freedom demanded must be freedom given. 
Even the conservative idea of "small government", if it is based on the proposition that "all [wo]men are created equal", will be clear: You must "butt out" of others' personal lives, and intimate decisions. You may enjoy your freedom by expecting it and protecting it for all.. 
Patriarchy, religious "beliefs" imposed upon others, and any however-well-meaning interference in the lives of others are all unconstitutional in our system of government. Priests cannot overrule the rile of law. 
Those who pursue the goal of controlling reproduction among others should study the history where it was tried. If they know the history and still oppose women's reproductive rights, they are not "reachable"." Richard 
"Freedom: Does that mean that Conservatives are free to not fund Planned Parenthood, Medicaid, Insurance plans, etc that fund many of those "intimate" decisions? 
I mean the challenge here is that doctor's appointments, birth control, "intimate" education, etc all cost money. And if a free person has a child they can not afford to care for, medicaid & welfare transfer a large portion of that cost to tax payers. 
So how does the concept of Rights and Responsibilities fit into your idea? 
If citizens are free to do as they wish and incur negative consequences... 
Shouldn't they carry the burden of their personal choices and actions? 
Or does it make sense to you that their consequences should be metered out across the rest of the population? 
I am more of a "you break it you buy it" kind guy.
Not a "you break it, we buy it"..." G2A


"Individual freedom in relation to our governments. 
To make it clear:. Constitutionally, it IS simple, and your taxes comprise no exception.
A liberal representative democracy requires an ACCEPTANCE of the Social Contract your argument rejects.. 
Here's a historic, academic presentation to inform citizens of the concept and necessity of the Social Contract:* 
(*Republicans (especially) need to grasp this concept if they are to ever going to be happy in our form of constitutional government. It is in the Social Contract itself where responsibilities of citizenship reside.)" Richard

"Conclusion. Sorry... That was too long so I skipped to the conclusion... I agreed with the last sentences. 
"Social contract theory is undoubtedly with us for the foreseeable future. But so too are the critiques of such theory, which will continue to compel us to think and rethink the nature of both ourselves and our relations with one another." 
I personally have no problem fulfilling my obligations to our society and paying my taxes. And I am fine caring for the old and truly disabled from the public purse. 
However I believe that all citizens should be held to the "Social Contract", which means to me that everyone follows the law, has only the children they can afford and are capable of raising well, everyone strives toward continuous learning for the betterment of our society, etc. 
The question then becomes what should our society do with people who break our social contract? 
Do we keep writing them checks and allow them to continue breaking the contract? 
Or is there a natural consequence that we let them experience?" G2A
 Thoughts?

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

A social contract isn't a literal reality. There is no paper, no dotted on line on which we sign. There has been no meeting of minds, and nothing of the sort can be enforced in a civil court. Nobody gets assessed for damages for violating a metaphor, and metaphors aren't subject to specific performance.

So, if a social contract isn't something with a literal existence, what does it mean figuratively? What exactly is a social contract, if it isn't a contract?

--Hiram

John said...

That is why I thought it was an interesting topic. The far lefters at MP seem to think this agreement goes one way. Where as I think us citizens are also bound by this "contract".