Where are all the Protesters... I mean a Black Police Officer shot a White Woman... Isn't this another case of racial profiling? Or is it simply a reality that sometimes really terrible things happen to good people.
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Do you think the BLM folks will protest until the Black officer is thrown in jail?
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Do you think the BLM folks will protest until the Black officer is thrown in jail?
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"Or is it simply a reality that sometimes really terrible things happen to good people."
When it happens to a black person you always say they deserved it for some reason, though.
(And, actually, if you look, you'll see that lots of folks related to BLM -- like Nekima Levy-Pounds, for instance -- have been all over this one.)
It's never a good idea to let someone else pick one's battles.
--Hiram
It's clear that you don't understand racism and the black lives matter movement.
It's clear that you don't understand implicit racism and the black lives matter movement.
Here is a test to check if you have implicit bias. I did.
project implicit
Sean,
No. In these cases I thought the officers were 100% to blame.
Shot in Stairwell
Shot while retrieving license
Thanks for that link, Laurie.
I tested to "No automatic preference" in the race category. Oddly, I think I do have a slight preference for white over black, but it's something I try to be cognizant about.
Moose
They are very similar to this case... Likely just a major fear based screw up...
I only bring up the racism card because it is what Liberals say every time a Black man is shot by a White Officer. I figure it must apply in reverse?
Could you even imagine being his poor partner? Being shot across inside a car...
"Could you even imagine being his poor partner? Being shot across inside a car..."
The partner is almost literally the last person I care about in this scenario. It will be interesting to see how easily (or not) this black officer will be charged and/or tried for this murder of a white woman.
Moose
As for Nekima, as a mayoral candidate I am sure she will seize every opportunity to bash the existing Mpls govt and it's police force.
Now the question will she be out for the blood of this Black officer like she has been for White officers in the past.
I mean... Look she got her name in WAPO. Success...
"“Many of us who have been on the front lines have been warning the public, saying if they would do this to our fathers and our sons and our brothers and our sisters and our mothers, they will do it to you next,” said Nekima Levy-Pounds, one of the candidates and a civil rights attorney. “I really hope that this is a wake-up call for this community to stop allowing things to be divided on the lines of race and on the lines of socio-economic status.”"
And look... She got a chance to bring up racism and civil rights...
I especially like this comment... "they will do it to you next"
Like these officers are doing it with an intent to kill innocents.
After thinking about this comment. I disagree.
"When it happens to a black person you always say they deserved it for some reason, though."
I don't think I have ever said that they "deserved it". What I typically say is that their choices and behaviors contributed to the very unfortunate event occurring.
Be it their choice to commit criminal actions, take drugs, act belligerent, etc.
In this case and in the ones above... It seems that the victims did nothing wrong... I guess we will have to see what the investigation shows.
I think it's telling that you've focused your attention on Nekima and not the incident.
Moose
"I don't think I have ever said that they "deserved it". What I typically say is that their choices and behaviors contributed to the very unfortunate event occurring."
To-may-to, to-mah-to.
Moose
John, your impressive, sudden swerve from "where are the protestors" to complaining about NLP being a publicity hound should be noted for its shamelessness.
Actually Sean brought up NLP... I just noted that she is shamelessly trying to use this terrible tragedy to get publicity on her police shaming racism campaign.
Maybe they are just tomatoes, but I think they are very different.
Deserve: "to merit, be qualified for, or have a claim to (reward, assistance, punishment, etc.) because of actions, qualities, or situation:
to deserve exile; to deserve charity; a theory that deserves consideration."
Contribute to: "to be an important factor in; help to cause:
A sudden downpour contributed to the traffic jam."
It is kind of like when there is a car accident and someone dies. I mean no one deserved to die, however the police officers can assign a percent contribution to each factor and/or driver.
Per the example in the definition:
- the people in the cars do not deserve to be in the traffic jam because it rained.
- but their being there certainly can contribute to the traffic jam.
What exactly do you want from NLP and others? You were accusing them of hypocrisy, then when I showed evidence that made that point moot, you complained about them for another reason. You just want them to shut up and sit down.
Actually I really want them to get active and help fix their communities:
- kick the gangs out
- reduce the number of single parent families
- promote academic achievement
Instead she keeps attacking the people who are trying to accomplish those helpful things. (ie schools, police, etc)
Nekima supports many of the public school reforms that you do -- she's opposed to LIFO, and says that MPS shouldn't use socioeconomic factors as an excuse. Maybe you should find out what she actually stands for before you spout.
I am always willing to study and learn...
Nekima for Mayor
Well that was a bit weak... Though at least Brotherhood Inc seems interesting.
Now here is an opinion piece I can happily disagree with. And it started out pretty good.
CNN Predictable Pattern
Well maybe we have found how she contributed to this disaster...
It gives new meaning to the Jimmy Johns commercial.It is not smart to freak a cop
She called once...
She called twice 8 minutes later...
Officers heard a loud noise...
She "showed up" outside the car window...
It seems she was pretty worried / agitated / impatient...
It will be interesting to hear which direction she approached the car from...
If they had a chance to see her or if she naively popped up from the blind spot, thus startling the cop. Though I am still puzzled why the officer had his gun drawn while sitting in the car. And worse yet pointing towards his partner.
Fox actually has a point here.
"One of the responding officers, Mohamed Noor, shot Damond when he arrived. His partner, Matthew Harrity, told investigators that he heard a loud sound right before Damond approached Harrity on the driver's side of the car.
A lawyer for Harrity told the Tribune that "it's certainly reasonable" the officers thought they were being ambushed.
“It’s certainly reasonable to assume that any police officer would be concerned about a possible ambush under these circumstances,” the lawyer, Fred Bruno, said. “It was only a few weeks ago when a female NYPD cop and mother of twins was executed in her car in a very similar scenario.”
Miosotis Familia, an officer with the New York City Police Department, was shot in the line of duty earlier this month."
It is disgusting how you put the onus on the victim here...grossly indecent.
The lawyer is saying lawyerly things. It's nighttime in July...a loud sound in south Minneapolis is fireworks. I live in south Minneapolis...I know. If our officers are so frightened that they cannot refrain from killing pets and innocents, perhaps we need to reevaluate who is being allowed to be a police officer and the training they receive. THEY are the ones with the firepower and the power of the State supporting their use of it. The onus is always on them to get it right.
Moose
“It was only a few weeks ago when a female NYPD cop and mother of twins was executed in her car in a very similar scenario.”
Really? Let's compare the scenarios, shall we? The female NYPD cop was stationed in a mobile command unit that had been deployed to a high-crime neighborhood as demonstration of increased police presence.
This event took place in one of the lowest crime neighborhoods of Minneapolis in response to two very specific 911 calls placed.
If the assumption is that the shooting of police officer in New York means that police can go into any call in any city under any circumstances with a hair-trigger, we've got real problems.
"It will be interesting to hear which direction she approached the car from...
If they had a chance to see her or if she naively popped up from the blind spot, thus startling the cop."
This is getting so stupid. The cops were called out on a call regarding the possibility that a woman was being sexually assaulted. If a woman in pajamas approaches your car under such circumstances -- even appearing suddenly, that could be your *victim*. Why are you shooting first and asking questions later?
(Let's also point out that if you or I were driving down an alley and we gunned down an unarmed woman who approached our car, we would already be charged with a crime.)
Please remember that I rarely believe in the concept of blame.
onus: "blame or responsibility"
Most things that happen occur because of many contributing factors.
This woman being highly agitated and showing up suddenly at the window does not mean that she was to blame for the accident. It just means that her behavior was a factor in the accident.
"This woman being highly agitated and showing up suddenly at the window does not mean that she was to blame for the accident. "
We don't know that she was "highly agitated" -- that's your interpretation.
What criminal charge do you want to prosecute this "spooked officer" with this time?
How many years in jail do you think he deserves?
Do you think he shot her because she was White?
And yes that is my interpretation of a person who:
- thinks she is hearing a woman being molested
- calls 911 twice in 8 minutes
- goes out in the dark where the possible violent criminal is to meet the cops
It will be interesting to see what the investigation determines.
"What criminal charge do you want to prosecute this "spooked officer" with this time?"
We need to get a statement from the officer to make this determination. If the facts are as reported so far, it feels to me like a manslaughter charge similar to what Yanez faced.
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