Because they ALL want the POWER to CONTROL Personal Morality and Limit Personal Freedoms of Citizens. Even if it means undermining democracy.
I mean Putin did not like having a neighboring country where the citizens were free to choose to join the EU, join NATO, grant LGBT rights, help the needy, etc. Therefore he invaded the country.
Trump, Carlson, etc did not like that American citizens were free to elect Biden, run their local elections, make personal decisions with their doctor, be openly LGBTQ, etc. Therefore they lie to undermine faith in our American democracy.
Trump, Carlson, etc would happily march this country into civil war and a dictatorship if it would help them to gain power, celebrity and wealth. And they have found some perfect suckers to manipulate to this end.- The religious right folk who fear personal freedom, and want to legislate morality.
- The folk who fear and/or look down on black / brown citizens.
- The folk who fear immigrants who may have different ideas / beliefs.
- The folk who fear facing our country's very checkered past and the consequences of that with eyes wide open.
- The folks who fear free trade because they are scared that they are not capable enough.
- The folks who have gotten wealthy in large part because of luck and our country's laws, support systems, etc, are terrified that they may need to pay more back to keep this country solvent and stable.
No wonder Carlson and Trump support Putin. They are SO JEALOUS !!! I am mean Putin does not have to answer to his citizens or the law... That was like Trump's dream when he was President... Thankfully the USA is NOT the USSR!!!
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Why do Republicans support Putin?
It's an interesting question, one for which I don't have an easy answer. I expect there are multiple answers many of which are in conflict.
Putin is a supporter of exceptionalism, the belief that a country, in his case, his country is exceptional. Supporters of national exceptionalism almost always believe that it is their own country the one that is exceptional. I think this idea of exceptionalism is one that he shares with many American Republicans. This is aided by the fact that their exceptionalism doesn't conflict with ours. Our exceptions aren't they same as their exceptions, and our exceptionalism is separated by oceans and a lot of run of the mill countries which aren't exceptionalist at all.
--Hiram
I can understand the idea that the USA is exceptional...
The USSR and Russia seem to continue to be failures...
By almost every measure... Well except maybe in the category of how many Putin cronies can be billionaires...
Everybody is different, but that doesn't mean everyone is exceptional. Russians are exceptionalist. They believe they have a unique and powerful spirituality which distinguishes themselves as a country through history. They believe they have been the target of materialism from the West, the victim of Napoleon, the Kaiser, Hitler and Marx, and now McDonald's. The argument for Putin for invading Ukraine isn't practical in any sense that we understand it. It's not about making anyone's life better. It's about the reestablishment of the Motherland, it's about the reunification of Russia, which transcends or is even in opposition to western materialism.
--Hiram
Yes they are delusional.
I wonder if our extremists on both side and especially the right could see how they are swayed by propaganda?
I heard a story about a woman in Kiev who was talking on the phone to her aunt in Moscow. The aunt would not believe what the niece told and showed her, and finally blocked her number.
It is so scary how the human mind can block information at times.
They see the world the way they see the world. In dealing with Russia, it's important to understand how they see the world, to put ourselves in their shoes. In retrospect, I think a lot of choices that were made could have been made better, but I am not convinced even if they had been made better, we wouldn't be at this point or some variation of it.
--Hiram
Yes perspective is reality for most humans...
Some of Trump's recent ramblings
Who goes to see him talk?
Trump is our Putin. Just like Putin, Trump is disdained by the chattering classes but revered in the greater country. What he says isn't true, no thinks it is true, but to many, what he says feels true.
--Hiram
I think you underestimate the ability of the human mind to truly believe things that the individual should logically and factually know are clearly untrue.
Trump lost the election by a large margin... 4 states...
And yet 10s of millions of delusional citizens truly think that he won.
Just like that Aunt could not except that Putin and Russia are bombing civilians.
Cognitive Dissonance
It's the side issues that are significant in that respect. Not even Trump's fiercest supporters will defend his business career. Not even his fiercest supporters will buy a Trump issued bond. Not even his fiercest supporters are willing to say they wish their kids would grow up to be like Donald Trump. He is no one's role model. Truth, sometimes, must be guarded against.
It's sort of like the Russian stock market. Russians are busily assuring the rest of the world that things are fine, that there is nothing to see here so move along. But whatever they tell the world, they have not trusted themselves to open their markets because markets, unlike TV anchormen, do not lie.
--Hiram
You really need to meet some Trump supporters...
I am amazed at what they still do and believe after the last ~5 years...
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