Sunday, October 30, 2016

Stop Hitting Myself

CNN Candidate Hubris

This piece is so true...  And what do you think of the latest "potential" Clinton email issue.

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

Do we really need to pay attention to a guy who thought his dog's name made a good email password?

--Hiram

John said...

What is wrong with that???

Ironic timing. I just changed my work password from one of my daughters names to my dog's name on Friday.

Of course I do always add a number, a capital letter and a special character to make it a bit more challenging...

John said...

Yep that Clinton email system was secure. wink wink nod nod...

John said...

Apparently some voters are interested.

I think the only thing that could make this election year more like a soap opera is if we find out the Chelsea Clinton was actually conceived during a torrid affair that Hillary had with Trump... :-)

Laurie said...

Comey caves to a lynch-mob mentality

Laurie said...

Comey was not defending the justice system

this is written by a conservative columnist - note the description of her column, right turn.

John said...

An interesting view regarding Jennifer Rubin.

Apparently her "Right Leaning" credentials are suspect.

John said...

Now if you want a Conservative viewpoint.
Fox News Laptop

Fox news Hypocrisy on Both Sides

And for a more balanced view. NPR FBI Director

John said...

Personally I think he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't...

And if Clinton and her aide truly let confidential emails drift over to a device that was not secure, it is worth discussing.

Marine Story for Comparison

John said...

MP Eric's viewpoint

Laurie said...

FBI Director James Comey’s Republican critics are growing by the hour

John said...

Now you do realize I hope that the Washington Post is significantly Left leaning? Right?

Maybe a browse at Allsides News is due

Laurie said...

are you suggesting that the WAPO made up the list of republicans who object to the way Comey handled the email investigation and these people really don't hold the views reported in the paper? you are such an idiot sometimes.

btw, the wapo is a highly respected mainstream news source. It only looks significantly left leaning to you due to your far right view point.

Laurie said...

in case you haven't decided who to vote for yet maybe you should consider the view of this conservative columnist:

Opinions
This election, a vote for bad could defeat dreadful

Laurie said...

here is an interesting opinion piece from a liberal writer:

Clinton’s critics know she’s guilty, they're just trying to decide what she's guilty of

btw, have you listed to Trump today? the man is psychotic.

Anonymous said...

And if Clinton and her aide truly let confidential emails drift over to a device that was not secure, it is worth discussing.

Here is a question I have. If sensitive emails might have contained classified information, is the possibility they may have drifted over to insecure devices at all related to the fact that they originated or passed through Hillary's personal server? We are discussing threads here, as I understand it, means forwarded email. One of Hillary's emails could be forwarded just as easily had it been written on a State Department server as it could be on a private server. The problem is the forwarding practice, not the server, or who owns or controls it. One of the amazing things about this whole thing, is out of the tens of thousands of emails we are talking about, only a handful contain information anyone regards as classified. This from a government who, given a half a chance, would like to declare the evening news top secret.

--Hiram

John said...

Laurie,
I am just using the Allsides criteria. WAPO is Left leaning and Washington Times is Right leaning.

As for sources, I don't think they made them up so much as they chose the quotes carefully and maybe a bit out of context. Newt saying that he disagrees with Comey's method does not mean that he thinks Comey should have stayed quiet.

Hiram,
Please remember the Marines I linked to who are facing court marshal for sending emails via "private email" to save lives.

Who is being punished similarly in the Clinton group for very similar transgressions? And nobody's live was immediately at risk there.

Anonymous said...

Please remember the Marines I linked to who are facing court marshal for sending emails via "private email" to save lives.

Did the marines know the information was classified when they sent it? Were they, like Hillary, in supervisory positions which gave them discretion to handle classified information?

People talk about crimes committed, but no effort is every made to identify the crimes or to detail how they were committed. Instead, effort is made to analogize to entirely different cases that have no apparent relevance at all. As I once read in a coffee shop, it's so important to keep one's eye on the donut, and to avoid being distracted by the hole.

--Hiram

John said...

Apparently his access rights were not the problem. It was his method of transmission... Read for yourself.

Sean said...

"Please remember the Marines I linked to who are facing court marshal for sending emails via "private email" to save lives. "

Isn't the violation he is being prosecuted not the sending e-mail part but rather for keeping that information (and other classified documents) on his personal computer after his discharge from the Marines?

The new information regarding the Clinton e-mail story doesn't seem to impact Clinton at all based on what we (very little) know today. It appears that Abedin may be the one with the problem from a legal perspective.

John said...

The link says otherwise. Not sure if it is correct.

"Meanwhile, a decorated Marine officer who has deployed four times faces being discharged from the corps he loves because he used his personal email to send a single classified report as an urgent warning when lives were at stake."

"In the next instant, he sent the report to the email address that Terrell had provided for another Marine in Afghanistan. He gave no thought to the document’s classification.

“I just reacted the same way that I would in a gunfight; the same way I would at a fire,” he said in the court papers. “I just immediately reacted.”

Brezler asked the Marine in Afghanistan to confirm that he received the message.

Brezler got no response and emailed him again. The Marine responded, saying Brezler had sent him a classified document via a private civilian account on an unsecured server.

“I had it on a hard drive from Now Zad and it was the only way to get it to you,” Brezler emailed back. “Andy said you need it.”

Brezler knew the document had been classified, but he figured that had likely changed with the passage of time. And he was only passing on to a fellow Marine what he and Terrell had reported in the first place.

But he could tell that the other Marine was taking it as a breach of security.

Brezler had still been in class during all this. He continued to live by the Naval Academy honor code, and he used the lunch break to call a Marine higher-up to report himself.

“I got his voice mail and went back to class,” Brezler later testified. “The next break, I reached out to him again.”

The higher-up answered and a series of notifications followed. Brezler made no excuses."

Sean said...

Foreign Policy: Classified Information Fight Involving Marine Gets Ugly

"The BOI is for mishandling classified material after his return from theater in 2012," Mills said. "The news casts [sic] paint a picture that the Major is being punished for passing classified info over unclass channels [to] warn Marines in theater of a possible insider threat. While its [sic] true he sounded a warning to Marines in theater that spillage was only a triggering event for an investigation into his other handling (or mishandling) of classified material in his care."

Mills’ email to Amos and Paxton goes on to say that an investigation by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service substantiated misconduct against Brezler, and found more than 100 classified documents on his personal, unclassified hard drive and thumb drive. Marine officials did not disclose those details earlier this year, citing a desire to maintain the integrity of the investigation.

John said...

So if the Marine is in trouble for having confidential information on his unsecured hard drive after he had left that position in the military... How is that different from Hillary maintaining confidential information on her personal server long after she left the office of Sec of State?

I am so puzzled...

Anonymous said...

"Meanwhile, a decorated Marine officer who has deployed four times faces being discharged from the corps he loves because he used his personal email to send a single classified report as an urgent warning when lives were at stake."

Was the marine in a supervisory position allowing him to deal with classified information? As an officer, he might well have been, which it would seem to me, would give him a pretty good case.

--Hiram

Anonymous said...

"So if the Marine is in trouble for having confidential information on his unsecured hard drive after he had left that position in the military... How is that different from Hillary maintaining confidential information on her personal server long after she left the office of Sec of State?"

Given the nature of computers, I think it would really be impossible to argue that failure to eliminate information is a crime. We all know it's virtually impossible to remove information from our computers. A lot of this email kerfuffle is the result of people not understanding how computers work.

--Hiram

Anonymous said...

Really, a big problem with what we are looking at here is that if the Republican attitude toward what might be on your computer is adopted, pretty much everyone in the United States will soon be doing time.

--Hiram