about the rate of Florida COVID deaths. The death lag looks pretty consistent. Let's hope they get their infections under control or the death rate will just keep rising. :-(
Louisiana and Mississippi are still in the unfortunate lead position.
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Interesting how you draw political conclusions from natural events.
Says the uninformed guy who insisted COVID was a seasonal virus...
It must be Winter in Florida.
No, it IS seasonal, but it's also an "indoor" disease. It peaks in the winter up north, when people go inside for the heat, and peaks in the summer in the South, when people go inside for the A/C. All perfectly natural, nothing political about it. Unless you want to insist that the virus is biological warfare waged by the Left, somehow deliberately targeted to conservatives.
It seems to be only be the Right who is dumb enough to fight against vaccinations, masks and social distancing.
On the upside, COVID does deal with deniers quite severely
With full FDA approval of Pfizer, it will be fun to catalog the variety of new excuses that will replace "I won't take an 'experimental' vaccine."
Moose
"It seems to be only be [sic] the Right who is dumb enough to fight..." There you go again, as if there is no rational reason to object to an experimental vaccine that is shortening lives, or to mask mandates that do NOTHING to slow the spread of the virus (except spreading other illnesses in school children) or to "social distancing" that only seems to work when Leftist groups do NOT observe it, e.g. Obama's bash.
experimental
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Moose
As long as it is mostly older folks in red states paying the price for denying reality.
I guess that record death rates are fine.
I still envision Jerry telling his surgical staff to skip scrubbing up and wearing masks, because he does not believe it is beneficial... :-)
What a marvelous ability you have to deny scientific reality in the pursuit of political posturing. Doctors and nurses wear surgical masks, some of them 95% effective against this virus. Cloth masks have been shown essentially zero percent effective, and some studies suggest long-term mask-wearing may actually increase the chance of various infections.
And yes, it appears record death rates ARE fine with you, because it lets you continue to believe that you are somehow a better human being than "those in red states," and to promote the idea that they should die.
Have you been vaccinated, Jerry?
Laurie, Good question...
Jerry,
When someone drowns after refusing to wear their life preserver. So be it.
A very timely joke
Yes, Laurie, thanks for asking. So long as you are not demanding or mandating. To me it makes a huge difference. I've been known to wear a mask on occasion, too, when it isn't demanded of me, but everything I read says it doesn't matter.
Unlike John, I won't condemn people to death for their failure to comply with MY unreasonable wishes. If you are that afraid of other people, lock yourself away.
Those who refuse vaccinations are condemning themselves. Unfortunately, they fill the hospitals and also condemn innocent people who could have used the ICU beds.
If it were up to me, a person refusing the vaccine for anything other than medical reasons would be refused ICU treatment.
I've always had a misanthropic streak, and this pandemic has only proven it to be reasonable. People actually are awful and stupid, and many of those are awfully stupid.
Moose
Moose,
That is a fascinating concept... And an excellent "natural consequences" idea.
Kind of like not working too hard to save motorcyclists who are too stupid to wear their helmets.
Natural consequences are natural, possibly the result of bad choices, but natural. What you are arguing for is that people who choose (a bad choice, according to you) to assume the risk of not being vaccinated for reasons that, to them, seem reasonable, should suffer horribly. That not only lacks compassion or humanity, but is downright evil. You are WANTING them to get sick and die, just so you can justify your own holier-than-thou decisions. And has it occurred to you how RACIST this attitude is?
"You are WANTING them to get sick and die, just so you can justify your own holier-than-thou decisions."
They are choosing the natural consequences of not being vaccinated. If they are too stupid to follow the best scientific guidance to save themselves, it is none of my concern.
"And has it occurred to you how RACIST this attitude is?"
Which attitude, and how so?
Moose
The natural consequences of not being vaccinated are that a tiny fraction of them will get sick and a small fraction of that will get very sick. As opposed to the odds that the shot will MAKE them sick or shorten their lives in some fashion. If you assume they are too stupid to make such a choice for themselves, then YOU are the tyrant, not the humanitarian.
Racist? Pay attention to the news. The largest percentage of those unable or unwilling to be vaccinated are minorities. Do you wish to condemn them to death because of the color of their skin?
"As opposed to the odds that the shot will MAKE them sick or shorten their lives in some fashion."
Vaccine misinformation that is not worth responding to.
"Do you wish to condemn them to death because of the color of their skin?"
What part of "people are making their own stupid decisions and suffering the consequences" do you not understand? Turns out the "Left" aren't the only ones who play the race card.
Moose
"The largest percentage of those unable or unwilling to be vaccinated are minorities."
And that is why the government should mandate the vaccine.
Moose
If it was up to me my school would have a vacine mandate for all staff.
It is strange how Jerry plays the race card when it benefits his position. (ie school choice, covid deaths, etc)
And how he ignores it when it comes to policing, employment, banking, etc.
At least Liberals are consistent in thinking that everything is racial in nature... :-)
Figure 3 is interesting
Time for a reality break:
RASMUSSEN POLLING DATA:
Survey of National Likely Voters:
51% say there was cheating in the 2020 election
55% support 2020 election audits
60% say preventing cheating more important than making it easier to vote
60% agree that opponents of requiring a photo ID to vote just want to make it easy to cheat in elections
61% say Election Reform must happen in Swing States like PA, MI, GA, WI, & AZ where voters have lost confidence
74% say requiring photo ID to vote is a reasonable measure to protect the integrity of elections
90% think it is important to prevent cheating in elections, including 79% who say it’s Very Important
Looks like evidence of a significant failure in our education system...and the continued downward spiral of our Democracy.
Moose
Moose, you are correct, but in exactly the opposite sense of what you believe.
Jerry is a big chicken....
Show us the link... :-O
And what does this have to do with COVID, Denial and Natural Consequences?
I am correct in exactly the way I believe I'm correct.
Moose
Reality isn't important. It's how you see things.
not a political clue
That guy really is not too smart then...
He seems intent on comparing apples and oranges.
The reason for NY, NJ, WA, CA, MN, MI and IL's higher numbers is because they are where the virus entered the country in Feb/Mar 2020.
I prefer to compare numbers after say ~Jul2020. When everyone had learned what COVID was, it had spread widely and people knew how to fight it.
There is no reason the case and hospitalization rate are so outrageous today in mostly Red States. Except that they are unwisely not taking appropriate precautions.
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