Friday, November 9, 2018

Did DEMs Win MidTerms

VOX The strange argument that Democrats actually lost the midterms, debunkedWhat centrists like Nick Kristof and Bret Stephens get wrong about the midterms.


CNN Who really won the midterm elections?


In my opinion it was the DEMs that won the mid-terms.  And when Trump said that he had won it, I knew I was correct... :-)  I mean every thing fell has predicted for the most part.  The Senate was a stretch from the start due to who was up for election.  Thoughts?


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33 comments:

John said...

15 Reasons Why Democrats Crushed Republicans This Week

GOP voter suppression continues, yet Democrats won big anyway

John said...

FYI. Those are from Laurie...

This is a reminder from me... :-)

John said...

Laurie,
I think Drum saying that DEMs crushed it is like...

Trump saying GOPers had a historical win...

How about we say that both side won and lost???

John said...

The results should give DEMs hope for 2020, if they can select a Moderate Charismatic candidate for POTUS.

The Florida change should worry GOPers. Assuming ex-felons are more likely to vote Dem? :-)

Anonymous said...

Depends on what one means by "win", I suppose.

--Hiram

Anonymous said...

Assuming ex-felons are more likely to vote Dem?

But I also think Republican ex felons are more likely to vote.

--Hiram

John said...

This seems to support my comment...

WAPO Allowing felons to vote likely would have changed the result in Florida’s Senate race

Laurie said...

I think it is clear that the dems won. I would argue that it was a medium size win, but that a case can be made it was a big win.

Just for fun, I checked back to see how big were the GOP wins in 2010 and 2014. One source says: The GOP's overall ballot lead was 52 to 47 on Tuesday (five points) (2014), vs. 52 to 45 in 2010 (seven points). Democrats this year won the popular vote over the Republicans in House races by a 7.1 percent margin.

I would post a link but once again the way I always do it on longer works.

Laurie said...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/11/05/which-election-was-worse-for-democrats-2010-or-2014/?utm_term=.e304cbacf0e5

why won´t my hyper link code work anymore? I now get this message:

¨Your HTML cannot be accepted: Reference "¨https:" is not allowed: A¨

John said...

Well just paste web address and I can link it.

Or here is another example.
HTML Linking

John said...

WAPO Past Elections

John said...

Strange... Are you using the correct quotes? "

John said...

Now I agree that the DEMs won with regard to the House...

However I think the GOP won with regard to the Senate...

2 more years of new judges, justices, etc...

John said...

By the way, these are some hilarious comics. Enjoy.

Laurie said...

yes, it is clear that the GOP won the Senate. the weird thing is dems received 12 million more votes in senate races. Just more evidence how undemocratic the senate is.

John said...

Laurie,
Don't you ever get tired of complaining about our country and what has helped make it one of the greatest successes in the history of the world?

Yes every region has some power, not just those with Urbanites living in them...

As I always say... This is a strength in out system... Not a failing...

We are all in it together... No matter where we live...

We need everyone in every region engaged... And hopeful...

John said...

Where as you keep advocating for system where people on the East and West coast could ignore the beliefs, wants and needs of the people in the fly over states.

That would be very bad for our country's stability...

Laurie said...

12 million votes is like 12%. that would be like 56% to 44%. Why are you so anti democracy / majority rule. The entire federal govt favors minority rule.

Laurie said...

Trump lost. And it wasn’t even close.

John said...

You must be kidding

John said...

By the way, that was a good article.

Laurie said...

what is the point of your latest link?

John said...

Laurie,
The vast majority of our near perfect governmental system is aligned to ensure that the high population states get the most say in how this country is run.

The only part of the system that really helps ensure the low population states are not dominated by the high population states is the 2 Senator rule. And you would advocate taking that away from them just because you disagree with them...

I will never understand...

Laurie said...

in the house, the GOP receives a higher percentage of seats than it receives in votes
in two recent presidential elections, the GOP won despite receiving fewer votes
the Senate is ridiculously anti-democratic.

Why do you care so little about democracy and the rights of the majority? Why do you support minority rule?

John said...

Because physically large countries that allow city dwellers to rule over the rural distant regions of the country, historically have been unstable.

You, a champion of protecting the rights of minority groups of people should appreciate this more than me.

As I keep saying, if the DEM party is an open big tent... They just need of to gain the support of people in more regions.

Laurie said...

anti democratic countries are also unstable.

John said...

And thus our wise founding fathers compromised between the 2 extremes...

Anonymous said...

Because physically large countries that allow city dwellers to rule over the rural distant regions of the country, historically have been unstable.

Are countries that allow rural areas to rule over urban areas more stable? Are Florida and Ohio considered rural?

--Hiram

John said...

Apparently you did not study the map.

Pointing out Florida and Ohio is like when people blame the punter for losing the game when he misses that 50 yard field goal in the last seconds of the game.

It seems to ignore what happened during the other ~60 minutes of the game. Or in this case how all the other 394 electoral votes fell.

John said...

As for rural areas ruling over populated areas.

Since usually the GOP is against telling States how to do their job there is less chance of the people in Wyoming telling people in California how they should live.

I mean even if Roe v Wade is over turned, California can still allow abortions.

I mean even if Medicaid, Medicare, SS, SSD, etc were ended... Cal could still provide these for their residents.

It is usually the DEMs who are obsessed with controlling people outside their State.

Anonymous said...

Pointing out Florida and Ohio is like when people blame the punter for losing the game when he misses that 50 yard field goal in the last seconds of the game.

More like arguing that punters shouldn't be drafted in the first round.

"I mean even if Roe v Wade is over turned, California can still allow abortions."

Because the founders wanted to give an edge to evenly divided large states, girls will be executed in Alabama for things which are legal in California.

--Hiram

John said...

Source?

John said...

By the way, about 650,000 human lives are cut short every year for better or worse as things are.