Monday, September 7, 2020

BLM vs EBLM

About the BLM Organization

Having far right FB friends does lead to some interesting discussions and links.  This one started with the posting of the very skewed translation shown below.  The BLM Org "What We Believe" does seem pretty Far Left and broad given the name of their organization, but the translator wants them to look like communists out to destroy the family, church, USA, etc.  It seems well accepted with certain readers.

Now for some fact checking regarding the leaders having Marxist training...

Is BLM a Marxist Movement? 

Trained Marxists?

I will probably always disagree with BLM on some issues since I am a moderate, however my understanding is that they look like most other Progressive groups.  No communism or family destruction intended. Just more scare tactics from the Right.

Then one of the readers mentioned EBLM Organization as a Christian alternative.  Now this organization is for folks on the Far Right, they think Planned Parenthood is out to kill all the Black babies, instead of helping women prevent / end unwanted pregnancies... And seem to believe that school choice will make centuries of relative disadvantages disappear...  Like BLM, EBLM does have some good ideas though. (ie encouraging couples to stay together and/or keeping the father involved in the kids lives)

Unfortunately none them gave me any new ideas for closing the gaps.  So it looks like the unlucky kids are still screwed as the Left and Right continue to ignore them. :-(

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

The rise of socialism has more to do with the failures of capitalism than it does with any real change in socialism itself. Our country, with it's capitalist system, is on the brink of disaster. Surely our prevailing economic system is at least partly to blame.

--Hiram

John said...

Why people keep abusing these words is beyond me...

Socialism: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Communism:

1a: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
b: a theory advocating elimination of private property

2capitalized
a: a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R.
b: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
c: a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably
d: communist systems collectively

John said...

Maybe instead call it:

Capitalism Leaning

vs

Welfare Leaning

Anonymous said...

When I think of capitalism now, I think of a system whose leaders tried to open up the economy prematurely in a time of pandemic just to make a few bucks. Marx could have predicted that.

--Hiram



John said...

That's funny... I think about all the workers who were not getting a paycheck...

Anonymous said...

And workers who are getting laid off and who will never be hired back. For whatever reason capitalism isn't as popular as it used to be. I wish more capitalists realized that and took affirmative steps to defend and protect the system that has so benefited them so personally and so incredibly well.

--Hiram

John said...

Why again will they not be hired back again once we start travelling by airplane, staying hotels, eating at restaurants, etc?

Anonymous said...

Businesses are using this as an opportunity to get rid of older, higher paid workers. It amplifies the trend away from permanent employment. Bert Blyleven is an example of that.

--Hiram

John said...

Apparently Burt is 69 years old.

So your thought is that companies should keep older high cost employees even when times are bad?

Of course I have never been a fan of paying people more just because they are older.

Anonymous said...

So your thought is that companies should keep older high cost employees even when times are bad?

My thought is that companies are using this as a reason to lay off older, more highly paid workers. Right now, I am not telling them that they should or should not do that, but I do say their decision to do that is a reason why capitalism is declining in popularity. I certainly don't think the rise of socialism has thst much to do with the merits of socialism itself.

Capitialism is a choice we make as a nation. Nobody has a right to capitalism.

--Hiram

Anonymous said...

“The top people in the Pentagon probably aren’t because they want to do nothing but fight wars so all of those wonderful companies that make the bombs and make the planes and make everything else stay happy,” Trump said on Monday."

This is certainly an approach to capitalism that is consistent with Marxist and Socialist thinking. I am sure Lenin would have agreed with it.

Capitalism just isn't as popular as it used to be.

--Hiram

John said...

Now you are believing what Trump is saying? :-)

Anonymous said...

Now you are believing what Trump is saying? :-)

I don't believe that. But then, I am not a Marxist. Do you think Trump believes that? Do you think he is a barely closeted Socialist?

I actually have thought a lot about this stuff. Like a lot of thoroughly unmilitary people, I revere the military from top to bottom. What Trump is so cavalierly talking about goes to the very heart of how officers perceive their mission. For an account of this, I recommend the book, "Once an Eagle". https://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/16/us/military-goes-by-the-book-but-it-s-a-novel.html

--Hiram

Anonymous said...

In a tweet, this morning, President Trump announced: "We will be substantially LOWERING Medicare Premiums and Prescription Drug Prices, bringing them down to levels that were not thought possible!"

The federal government cutting drug prices sounds a lot like socialism to me. President Trump apparently feels such a frontal assault on capitalism is good politics. (Just between you and me, I don't think it is possible to cut drug prices by the amount Trump suggests through federal action. He is certainly right about that.")

--Hiram

John said...

Trump will definitely say whatever he thinks will get him votes...

What amazes me is that the GOP folks are unwilling to call him out...

Anonymous said...

What amazes me is that the GOP folks are unwilling to call him out.

He delivers them the judges they want. And the judges will still be there decades after Trump leaves the scene.

--Hiram

Anonymous said...

Trump would like to deliver on his promises, I think. He just doesn't have any idea how to do it. He is only capable of delivering on easy things, stuff within his power like nominating judges. With something like drug prices, to get anything done would require hard work and focus, things Trump can't manage.

--Hiram

John said...

Definitely NOT the deal maker he claimed to be. :-)