Wednesday, October 31, 2018

We Are Where We Want To Be

This is worth a read... MinnPost Ex-GOP chair Michael Steele on the politics and power of Trump by Eric Black

This is worth a read and I agree with Michael Steele... “We are where we are because this is where we want to be.”  I mean Tribe Liberal and Tribe Conservative both went so far out that a void was created...  And nature hates a void...

13 comments:

Sean said...

Donald Trump didn't fill the void, he just turned out more of his tribe in three critical swing states.

Laurie said...

I thought the link was dumb / boring. There may be about 25% of the citizens who are where they want to be.

Here is a better link:

Vote against all Republicans. Every single one.

John said...

Sean,
Or Clinton only got the majority vote because she turned out the vote in a small portion of the country with high population density?

Per the linked maps, it looks like a lot of the country is not feeling that the DEMs are listening to them. :-)

John said...

Laurie,
Interesting and depressing piece... To paraphrase...

"Don't evaluate your individual candidate !!! Vote against Tribe Conservative!!!"

I think that sounds like "Tribe Liberals War Cry"

John said...

By the way, I am thinking about voting for Smith & Phillips for one unrelated reason... I am SO TIRED of Paulsen and Housely's attack ads...

And I will probably vote for Klobuchar because she seems pretty okay...

Now are you going to vote for Johnson since there are so many annoying attack ads against him by Tribe Liberal?

John said...

By the way, remember the Politically Disengaged and Moderates over here that no one in our current political environment is listening or communicating with...

41% of the citizens is a pretty big void that can be pulled off the sidelines by the correct message.

My usual question: Are the DEMs willing to Moderate to reach them?

Anonymous said...

It's the question I ask myself. If my tribe nominated an unfit person for president, would loyalty to my tribe compel me to vote for him?

--Hiram

John said...

That question is too simplified... Let's complicate it...

If my tribe nominated an unfit person for president,
and the other tribe nominated a competent person who would ardently work against my tribes beliefs and interests,

Would loyalty to my tribe and my beliefs compel me to vote for this questionable individual?



Anonymous said...

"Now are you going to vote for Johnson since there are so many annoying attack ads against him by Tribe Liberal?"

I haven't seen many ads, as I don't watch much live tv, but the Walz ads I've seen have been very positive and about his own vision for the State.

Moose

Sean said...

The point I'm trying to make, John, is that Donald Trump didn't fill a void between two extremes, like Steele seems to be implying. Rather, Donald Trump maximized one of the extremes.

I think Steele's fundamental point is wrong, at least for the moment. I don't think there's any real sense right now that the path to victory is to be a centrist and fill that void. I think we've got a couple more cycles of real backlash ahead of us before the fever breaks.

John said...

Maybe it is a PAC that is running the terrible ads then...

John said...

Sean,
I think Trump did 2 things...
- maximized one of the extremes
- pulled some of the Politically Disengaged off the sidelines

I mean with the Tribe Liberal obsessed with protecting and giving tax dollars to people in minority groups, illegals and the poor...

and with Tribe Conservative obsessed with bashing those groups and giving tax cuts to rich people...

I think a lot of Americans is feeling very ignored...

Anonymous said...

If my tribe nominated an unfit person for president,
and the other tribe nominated a competent person who would ardently work against my tribes beliefs and interests,

I routinely and ardently support candidates who support policies that are not in my interest, at least construed narrowly. I think many people all sides do. and in terms of beliefs, I would have had no problem voting for George Bush, or John McCain for that matter. Neither man presented problems of fundamental decency.

--Hiram